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Old 08-01-2021, 10:51 AM   #61
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Ooof, calls her "mentally unwell".
Hello pot…….this is kettle…..
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How ever this plays out I hope the Sharks do NOT receive any relief from his contract. I do not want to see the Sharks come out of this smelling like a rose and have the funds to go shopping.
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Lost any sympathy with him calling her mentally unwell.

I can't imagine anyone would be doing well given the situation he has put his family in.
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Lost any sympathy with him calling her mentally unwell.

I can't imagine anyone would be doing well given the situation he has put his family in.
Wasn’t a lot of sympathy to start with, but completely agree. He is a POS….
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Old 08-01-2021, 12:05 PM   #65
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Lets think about the optics of this for a moment.

Evander Kane loves to Gamble. He has made that quite clear over the years.

It got him into trouble where he has had to declare Bankruptcy to welch on debts to Las Vegas casinos.

Okay...is it reasonable to assume that Bankruptcy wasnt the first strategy he tried?

Perhaps he tried to clear the debt betting on things he thought he either knew better or even influence? Hence betting on NHL games.

Further, Evander Kane is not an island. He presumably knows a lot of players, management etc, and might be privy to more information about Team Dynamics, how certain players are feeling or whatever that would give him an edge over other Gamblers?

Now...I've made a lot of assumptions there, but not with many glaring leaps of logic.

Because it seems to me that if all he wanted to do was Gamble he could play table games, he could bet on horse racing, hell if he wanted to bet on sports bet on other sports! Theres lots of perfectly good options!

So to do this seems to imply a different level of need.
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I don't believe that he gambled on his own games. I need evidence on that one because it doesn't even make sense. If he was a goalie then maybe we'd be having a different conversation down the road.
I hate when an athlete's personal life gets dragged across the internet, we don't need to know any of this. There's zero conclusions anyone can make from he-said, she-said social media posts.

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A lot of this really isn't the public's business and as unfortunate as it is and as much as you feel for the family, it needs to be dealt with behind closed doors.

Involving the internet community never helped any situation, ever.
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I don't believe that he gambled on his own games. I need evidence on that one because it doesn't even make sense. If he was a goalie then maybe we'd be having a different conversation down the road.
I hate when an athlete's personal life gets dragged across the internet, we don't need to know any of this. There's zero conclusions anyone can make from he-said, she-said social media posts.
Yes. Exactly. Sounds like they're all toxic people.
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A lot of this really isn't the public's business and as unfortunate as it is and as much as you feel for the family, it needs to be dealt with behind closed doors.

Involving the internet community never helped any situation, ever.

I really dislike millennials these days posting stuff for likes/slacktivism/virtue signalling, but understanding this is the way things are done for them, even on platforms such as Linkedin, what can you do? She's clearly had it with him. Whether she's truthful or not will probably come to light at some point, but I'd say he's less credible than her at this point. Again, I don't agree with public airing of personal life, but in this case, there's an element of public need to know about if he's actually gambling on NHL games. It's a pretty serious accusation for the NHL for where they're trying to go with single game betting.


As for Kane, I'd expect nothing but a denial. It's from the politician handbook really - deny, deny, deny, until there are facts to prove otherwise - then make amends. I doubt she has evidence on him, but I don't think he's clean.
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I really dislike millennials these days posting stuff for likes/slacktivism/virtue signalling, but understanding this is the way things are done for them, even on platforms such as Linkedin, what can you do? She's clearly had it with him. Whether she's truthful or not will probably come to light at some point, but I'd say he's less credible than her at this point. Again, I don't agree with public airing of personal life, but in this case, there's an element of public need to know about if he's actually gambling on NHL games. It's a pretty serious accusation for the NHL for where they're trying to go with single game betting.


As for Kane, I'd expect nothing but a denial. It's from the politician handbook really - deny, deny, deny, until there are facts to prove otherwise - then make amends. I doubt she has evidence on him, but I don't think he's clean.
There is no way she should get a pass if her story is not true. He could be a problem gambler and still not bet on his own games. Jagr is another famous gambler who lost a lot. Doesn’t automatically make him a deadbeat. If someone said that about me and tried to ruin me I would call them much worse then mentally unwell.
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I really dislike millennials these days posting stuff for likes/slacktivism/virtue signalling, but understanding this is the way things are done for them, even on platforms such as Linkedin, what can you do? She's clearly had it with him. Whether she's truthful or not will probably come to light at some point, but I'd say he's less credible than her at this point. Again, I don't agree with public airing of personal life, but in this case, there's an element of public need to know about if he's actually gambling on NHL games. It's a pretty serious accusation for the NHL for where they're trying to go with single game betting.


As for Kane, I'd expect nothing but a denial. It's from the politician handbook really - deny, deny, deny, until there are facts to prove otherwise - then make amends. I doubt she has evidence on him, but I don't think he's clean.
There is no way she should get a pass if her story is not true. He could be a problem gambler and still not bet on his own games. Jagr is another famous gambler who lost a lot. Doesn’t automatically make him a deadbeat. If someone said that about me and tried to ruin me I would call them much worse then mentally unwell.
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I really dislike millennials these days posting stuff for likes/slacktivism/virtue signalling, but understanding this is the way things are done for them, even on platforms such as Linkedin, what can you do? She's clearly had it with him. Whether she's truthful or not will probably come to light at some point, but I'd say he's less credible than her at this point. Again, I don't agree with public airing of personal life, but in this case, there's an element of public need to know about if he's actually gambling on NHL games. It's a pretty serious accusation for the NHL for where they're trying to go with single game betting.


As for Kane, I'd expect nothing but a denial. It's from the politician handbook really - deny, deny, deny, until there are facts to prove otherwise - then make amends. I doubt she has evidence on him, but I don't think he's clean.


Well, the new politicians’ handbook is more like deny, deny, deny

And once there are facts, ignore them and anybody who cares can go #### themselves
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I don't believe that he gambled on his own games. I need evidence on that one because it doesn't even make sense. If he was a goalie then maybe we'd be having a different conversation down the road.
I hate when an athlete's personal life gets dragged across the internet, we don't need to know any of this. There's zero conclusions anyone can make from he-said, she-said social media posts.
Yeah people are jumping all over him for a post his ex made. I wonder if there are other examples throughout internet history of an somebody posting fake stuff to get back at someone. I can't see the NHL simply starting an investigation based on a twitter post from a disgruntled ex, unless this ex has some kind of legal representation that made a formal complaint and provided evidence to the league that they were forced to act on. What's stopping literally anybody online from making such an allegation and forcing the league to spend money and resources on an investigation? How could they even investigate this unless there is some kind of paper trail to follow. He just had his best PPG season of his career. Makes no sense unless they plan on blaming Kane for the Sharks not making the playoffs or playing lazy shifts and getting scored on.

Kane is a dick. Nobody denies that. But I'm going to wait and see before I pass any kind of judgement. This is all so stupid anyways. I don't care about his personal life away from the rink. Who cares what his ex has to say. Let the lawyers sort that crap out. She says he's betting on his own games and a deadbeat dad. He says otherwise. Who's to say who is right? If what she said is false, she's airing their dirty laundry for all to see and is a POS. If Kane is guilty, then he will be punished accordingly. Ultimately, both are probably giant POS and the child is the one who loses in all this.
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Yes. Exactly. Sounds like they're all toxic people.
Well, you tend to attract what you are.

That why people without integrity or who have done very little self work that are waiting on somebody who operates with it and has their #### together to come and complete them and motivate them to be better just doesn't happen. Chances are you'll link up with someone who shares very similar characteristics and downfalls.

Also important not to neglect your relationships and stop dating your woman, or she will turn on you faster than you than you know it, in whatever unnerving form that takes on.

If you know how to communicate effectively with your spouse, you'll rarely have fights and drama on this sort of level. Problem is guys get complacent. A millionaire who travels for a living and suffers addictions, with Kane's ego? Sounds like a recipe for disaster for those close to him.
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I don't believe that he gambled on his own games. I need evidence on that one because it doesn't even make sense. If he was a goalie then maybe we'd be having a different conversation down the road.
I hate when an athlete's personal life gets dragged across the internet, we don't need to know any of this. There's zero conclusions anyone can make from he-said, she-said social media posts.
from the experience I have had with gambling addicts I cant believe he hasnt bet on his own games, that's where the rush is, this has nothing to do with money, it's all about the high they get
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from the experience I have had with gambling addicts I cant believe he hasnt bet on his own games, that's where the rush is, this has nothing to do with money, it's all about the high they get
As well, it probably had a lot to do with avoiding pain or worse.

How do you end up 26 million in the “red”, at his salary?

Scary.
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I've lived in San Jose for the past 12 years almost and Evander Kane is one of the Sharks who is not a fan favorite. When he's out in the public (I've seen him a couple times), he acts like he is too good for people. It's the complete opposite of guys like Brent Burns, Tomas Hertl and Marc-Edouard Vlasic who stop and interact with you if you see them. Even past Shark alumni still live here or at least have property here (Nabokov, Cheechoo, Pavelski) because they love the area and fans. Evander Kane has a big problem with his ego that needs to be fixed.
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Wouldn't Evander just spend the interim time trying to cover his tracks?

I wonder how the league carries out such investigations effectively.
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