07-21-2020, 10:51 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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2020 Hart Trophy Finalists: Draisaitl, MacKinnon, Panarin. UPD: Draisaitl wins
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Leon Draisaitl, Nathan MacKinnon, and Artemi Panarin have been named finalists for the Hart Trophy. ��
Last edited by sureLoss; 09-21-2020 at 02:33 PM.
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07-21-2020, 10:52 AM
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#2
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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This is Neon Leon's year isn't it?
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07-21-2020, 10:54 AM
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#3
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206/208
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This sucks, but 110 in 71 gets you a Hart. Full stop.
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07-21-2020, 10:55 AM
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#4
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Franchise Player
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I hope it's Leon.
Oilers with multiple Hart trophy winners and STILL miss the playoffs. Would be glorious.
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07-21-2020, 10:55 AM
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#5
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Just imagine a world where the Oil took Bennett and left us Draisaitl
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07-21-2020, 11:03 AM
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#6
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1285618404716687360
The gap between MacKinnon and his teammates is pretty large. Nate should win.
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07-21-2020, 11:08 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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24 points in 14 games without the next two best forwards is a crazy stat. He's on a whole other level.
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07-21-2020, 11:21 AM
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#8
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Franchise Player
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This trophy will likely be Draisaitl’s and, honestly, deservedly so.
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07-21-2020, 11:29 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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I actually think Panarin should win this one. I've read a couple of articles that make fairly convincing arguments. He's had an incredible year and had a lot less to work with.
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07-21-2020, 11:33 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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How it's supposed to be awarded (MVP to his team): Nathan MacKinnon
How it's traditionally been awarded (Points and outstanding play): Leon Draisaitl
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07-21-2020, 11:33 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I actually think there is a case for people other than Draisaitl if you consider defensive play, or value even strength points more than PP. Personally I think Panarin deserves the MVP and there have been a lot of articles / overall stats based views that support that.
Here is their point production:
Draisaitl:
-ES: 56
-PP: 44 (McDavid has 43)
Panarin:
-ES: 59
-PP: 24
Mackinnon:
-ES: 52
-PP: 31
Does Draisaitl deserve the Hart over Panarin because he gets to play on a PP with McDavid...I'm not sure.
Especially if you look at 200ft game and overall impact at Even Strength.
Draisaitl:
-GF: 80
-GA:77
-GF%: 51.0%
-xGF%: 47.5%
Panarin:
-GF: 89
-GA: 49
-GF%: 64.5%
-xGF%: 55.0%
Mackinnon:
-GF: 81
-GA: 51
-GF%: 56.2%
-xGF%: 54.3%
Give me the guys that actually keep the puck out of their own net too. Draisaitl had a great offensive season, but he was also the forward on the ice for the most even strength goals against in the league (77).
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07-21-2020, 11:35 AM
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#12
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theslymonkey
This sucks, but 110 in 71 gets you a Hart. Full stop.
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well it gets you the Art Ross, I'll concede that
I get that he's probably win, and that won't be a travesty or anything
but McKinnon's team has 93 points and he has 48 more points that the next highest scoring forward on his team
Drai's team has 82 points and he has a 13 point cushion on the next highest (and worlds dreamiest) forward on his team
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07-21-2020, 11:37 AM
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#13
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Franchise Player
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That’s fair, but seeing how the Hart Trophy has been awarded the last few years, Draisaitl was on pace for 127 points this year. If the point totals between the three was closer, it might be a different situation.
MacKinnon is deserving of some hardware for the season he has had though.
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07-21-2020, 12:10 PM
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Franchise Player
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When MacKinnon was asked, he said Panarin deserved to win. He didn't even mention anyone else.
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07-21-2020, 12:13 PM
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#15
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
This trophy will likely be Draisaitl’s and, honestly, deservedly so.
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He should end up 3rd
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07-21-2020, 12:27 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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MacKinnon is absolutely in McDavid's ballpark and I hope he outshines him (with the hardware that actually matters) when all is said and done.
Leon seems like a piece of crap person and fits the oilers like a glove but admittedly was a production machine. Just still don't trust him defensively as far as I could throw him, but when you're scoring that much it doesn't really matter a whole lot.
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07-21-2020, 12:31 PM
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Voted for Kodos
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Draisaitl was OBJECTIVELY the worst player in the league for a stretch that ended up being a quarter of the season.
That should disqualify him from winning.
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07-21-2020, 12:37 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Lord Leon. Give him his flowers
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07-21-2020, 12:44 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Leon isn't the best player on his team. I don't see how he's the most valuable to his team based on the award description
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07-21-2020, 12:47 PM
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#20
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Panarin or Mackinnon should win. Draisaitl might just win based on points pace though.
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