I'm honestly not sure if you're being serious at this point.
I’m dead serious and I’ll even be the first to acknowledge that there have been some really boneheaded and tone deaf moves made by a few police officers over the last few days, but how long do you want this to go on? Every single person out after curfew is impeding the ability for the true message of the protests to be recognized and are enabling the anarchists to continue with the destruction that has nothing to do with the true issues that need to be addressed.
I’m dead serious and I’ll even be the first to acknowledge that there have been some really boneheaded and tone deaf moves made by a few police officers over the last few days, but how long do you want this to go on? Every single person out after curfew is impeding the ability for the true message of the protests to be recognized and are enabling the anarchists to continue with the destruction that has nothing to do with the true issues that need to be addressed.
There's obviously a discussion to be had about the effectiveness of the protests, and nobody condones looting, but you can't add hyperbolic things like "police are being killed" because that kinda hasn't happened. How long should this go on? The short is answer is... until something changes. But it's obviously a complex issue and we can get into it.
Good on you for finding sources. Thankfully for me, that wasn't the flawed part of your argument. I'm not here trying to condone any of the violence. I just want to not be accused of stealing my own car. Hopefully this makes sense to you.
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There's obviously a discussion to be had about the effectiveness of the protests, and nobody condones looting, but you can't add hyperbolic things like "police are being killed" because that kinda hasn't happened. How long should this go on? The short is answer is... until something changes. But it's obviously a complex issue and we can get into it.
Refusing to respond directly to someone determined to misunderstand so I'm replying to your very good point instead. I want to expound on this. Since so many people love to quote MLK at times like this:
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"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Just because the riots may fade doesn't mean there is peace. Just because these actions may eventually go away doesn't mean there is justice.
There is no security, no peace, no justice, not while people remain terrified of those who are supposed to protect them.
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Well that’s what cam_wmh asked me for so I answered him.
Fair. In a sense, all the things considered, you could argue that the deaths and injury of law enforcement up to this point have been reasonably contained given that the majority of large cities in the country are under siege right now. It'd have been hard to quantify the hatred for law enforcement in the black community before this incident, and now it's just unimaginable.
