10-14-2016, 10:06 AM
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Jim Prentice and three others involved in fatal plane crash
Situation unfolding following the plane crash in Kelowna, there are multiple unconfirmed reports this morning that former Premier Jim Prentice was 1 of 4 killed in a plane crash near Kelowna. Will update if anything changes.
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Tom Strangward @881TheOneTom 2m2 minutes ago
I've received information from a VERY solid source regarding former Alberta Premier Jim Prentice has died in a plane crash. Still digging.
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Update:
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A Conservative source confirms for @1310NEWS that former Alberta Premier Jim Prentice has died in Kelowna plane crash #canpoli
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570 NEWS - KitchenerVerified account @570NEWS 33s34 seconds ago
BREAKING: Source confirms to our sister station in Ottawa, that former Alberta Premier Jim Prentice has died in Kelowna plane crash #cdnpoli
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660 NEWS CalgaryVerified account @660NEWS 48s49 seconds ago
#BREAKING: A Conservative source confirms to our Ottawa station that former #Alberta Premier Jim Prentice has died in Kelowna plane crash.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...dead-1.3555839
So very sad. Condolences to all the family and Friends effected by this crash.
Last edited by Otto-matic; 10-14-2016 at 10:36 AM.
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10-14-2016, 10:10 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Here is my post from the aviation thread about the crash and flight tracker log:
Cessna Citation flying from Kelowna to Calgary-Springbank crashed, looks like shortly after departure. All four on board dead.
This appears to be the flight log from Flightaware, if you click on the track log you'll note that the last confirmed report (from Vancouver Centre) shows a descent rate of 2200 feet per minute.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...10ZZ/CYLW/CYBW
Track log:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C.../CYBW/tracklog
You can see that all reports after that one are simply Flightaware estimating the aircraft position. Had it still been flying Calgary ATC would have picked it up and the flight map would have shown the green line track until landing at Springbank instead of the grey estimate line.
Crappy...
Edit: Aviation Safety Net report up: http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=20161013-0
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10-14-2016, 10:11 AM
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I believe in the Jays.
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Aw geez, I hope not. Regardless of who my condolences to the friends and family of the deceased.
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10-14-2016, 10:20 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Tom Strangward
@881TheOneTom
On Prentice: source has confirmed. Former Premier Jim Prentice has tragically passed away. #abpoli @881TheOne
My condolences to the family.
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10-14-2016, 10:21 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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Last data point descending at -2200 ft/minute! Yikes.
Sad news.
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10-14-2016, 10:26 AM
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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What causes a plane to descend like that? Wind?
I've heard from a few people Kelowna has some crazy mountain you have to clear on takeoff (I knew a friend of a friend that crashed and died there), would that be a factor?
I don't want to start speculating what caused it, but isn't it pretty difficult to fly a cessna from Kelowna to Calgary over the rockies?
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10-14-2016, 10:28 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
What causes a plane to descend like that? Wind?
I've heard from a few people Kelowna has some crazy mountain you have to clear on takeoff (I knew a friend of a friend that crashed and died there), would that be a factor?
I don't want to start speculating what caused it, but isn't it pretty difficult to fly a cessna from Kelowna to Calgary over the rockies?
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Cessna Citation Jet, this isn't a 150 we are talking about here, it is a twin-engine business jet.
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10-14-2016, 10:28 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
What causes a plane to descend like that? Wind?
I've heard from a few people Kelowna has some crazy mountain you have to clear on takeoff (I knew a friend of a friend that crashed and died there), would that be a factor?
I don't want to start speculating what caused it, but isn't it pretty difficult to fly a cessna from Kelowna to Calgary over the rockies?
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I assumed falling out of the sky would make it descend that quickly.
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10-14-2016, 10:28 AM
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Wow that is crazy. Terrible news.
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10-14-2016, 10:29 AM
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Norm!
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That's a tragedy, despite the disastrous end to his political campaign. The guy spent his life trying to serve Canadians and Albertans.
Condolences to his family and Friends.
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10-14-2016, 10:29 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
What causes a plane to descend like that? Wind?
I've heard from a few people Kelowna has some crazy mountain you have to clear on takeoff (I knew a friend of a friend that crashed and died there), would that be a factor?
I don't want to start speculating what caused it, but isn't it pretty difficult to fly a cessna from Kelowna to Calgary over the rockies?
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That cessna is a twin jet.
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10-14-2016, 10:32 AM
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Obviously it crashed, so something was wrong, but isn't 2200 feet per minute decent kind of normal?
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10-14-2016, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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I post and admin on a Calgary Airport Spotters facebook page, one of the members confirms his father was the pilot.
Not Prentice's father. The father of the member on our page.
Last edited by Bigtime; 10-14-2016 at 10:44 AM.
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10-14-2016, 10:33 AM
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Uncle Chester
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Originally Posted by nik-
Obviously it crashed, so something was wrong, but isn't 2200 feet per minute decent kind of normal?
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That's what I was wondering. Doesn't seem like that fast of a drop really.
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10-14-2016, 10:34 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Rough math, but I think that's about 12m per second. Could have been a stall, but I am no expert. It sounds like a pretty fast fall. You would think if both engines failed, it would glide at a slower decent than that. Again, just guessing.
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10-14-2016, 10:34 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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-2200 at 4800 feet shortly after takeoff? No definitely not normal.
Last edited by automaton 3; 10-14-2016 at 10:38 AM.
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10-14-2016, 10:41 AM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Geez, mostly just airplane discussion in here. What a shock, even more tragic with his father being the pilot. Condolences.
I can't even imagine how tough that will be if his mother is still alive.
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10-14-2016, 10:42 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Terrible news.
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10-14-2016, 10:42 AM
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Lives In Fear Of Labelling
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Originally Posted by Bigtime
I post and admin on a Calgary Airport Spotters facebook page, one of the members confirms his father was the pilot.
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Prentice's father or the member's father?
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10-14-2016, 10:43 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by underGRADFlame
Prentice's father or the member's father?
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Members father.
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