07-10-2019, 11:53 AM
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#81
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
What you are missing is the marching orders from an impatient, meddling team owner who has clearly set the playoffs at any cost as the goal for this year.
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They don’t have much choice after trading away their 1st. They had to go all in at that point.
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07-10-2019, 11:54 AM
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#82
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
They don’t have much choice after trading away their 1st. They had to go all in at that point.
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They probably should not have traded their 1st.
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07-10-2019, 11:57 AM
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#83
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Big fan of him as person. But you get a guy that either plays with edge and gets hurt or disappears for long stretches. Streaky scorer (1 assist in 7 playoff games this year).
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07-10-2019, 11:57 AM
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#84
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Or they expect him to get in on the 1 - 2 year deals at a moderate AAV, wait for cap to go up and then sign the big money deal.
Downside to the for the Canucks is it means Pettersson, Boeser and Hughes are all coming up at the same time.
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With the contracts that have been signed recently, would you do this if you were him?
If it's me, I'm looking for 5 years with big money, then free agency. A bridge deal is a waste of earnings power IMO
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07-10-2019, 11:59 AM
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#85
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#1 Goaltender
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What do they look like now?
Pearson - Pettersson - Boeser
Miller - Horvat - Ferland
Baertschi - Gaudette - Virtanen
Eriksson - Beagle - Sutter
Roussell
Goldobin
Edler - Stetcher
Hughes - Myers
Benn - Tanev
Markstrom
Demko
Better on paper for sure- I like this roster more than Edmonton's
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07-10-2019, 12:01 PM
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#86
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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IMO - While Treliving was polite regarding Ferland after the deal last summer, you have to think that Burke's public comments about Ferland quitting on the team were a group belief and not just his own. I get that people are upset that a beloved ex Flame is with a festering cesspool of a team but he clearly was not going to come back here.
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07-10-2019, 12:01 PM
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#87
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
What you are missing is the marching orders from an impatient, meddling team owner who has clearly set the playoffs at any cost as the goal for this year.
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Yeah, I guess so. The Aquilinis certainly see to be a greasy bunch, but I don't understand what their impatience serves. God forbid, I honestly liked the look of the Canucks and am shocked at how much they've seemed to undue by the rash of impetuous moves they've made this Summer.
Are they banking on a massive cap bump in 2021? I know everyone talks about the new US TV deal, but I'm still skeptical. I can only hope that they continue to mortgage their future by tying up salary with terrible contracts.
Come expansion time, they'll have Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel and Myers tied up with different NTCs.
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07-10-2019, 12:01 PM
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#88
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Roussel goes on the third line over Sven. I think they're gonna find a way to offload Eriksson this summer too.
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07-10-2019, 12:02 PM
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#89
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Franchise Player
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Echo what everyone else said. Good price if he stays healthy. At that price I would have loved to have him back.
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07-10-2019, 12:03 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
What do they look like now?
Pearson - Pettersson - Boeser
Miller - Horvat - Ferland
Baertschi - Gaudette - Virtanen
Eriksson - Beagle - Sutter
Roussell
Goldobin
Edler - Stetcher
Hughes - Myers
Benn - Tanev
Markstrom
Demko
Better on paper for sure- I like this roster more than Edmonton's
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I don't think Goldobin has a contract, and I can't imagine how he'd fit there now. So many left wings...
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07-10-2019, 12:03 PM
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#91
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Roussel goes on the third line over Sven. I think they're gonna find a way to offload Eriksson this summer too.
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What will they have to give up along with Eriksson? 2021 picks? Young talent? They're already dismantling their future without having had a whiff of the playoffs.
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07-10-2019, 12:04 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
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Canucks to sign Ferland (4yrs, ~$3.5 mil AAV)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
They probably should not have traded their 1st.
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Nope, but I think it could provide some hilarious results so I’m totally on board with it.
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07-10-2019, 12:07 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Not saying Vancouver has had a great summer. Trading a 1st rounder with where they are is risky, the Myers contract is not great, but this is a good deal. Ferland, Miller, Myers, Hughes make them a much better team on paper than they were last year. I would say they are the most improved team in the division this summer.
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Their big moves are adding the following;
Miller: $5.25 million
Myers: $6 million
Ferland: $3.5 million (speculated)
Miller is a good player who will help but Myers isn't that great and Ferland is very streaky and injury prone. All I see here is a 1st round pick and a lot of money ($15 million/season) spent to become "improved". What Western team is going to fall out of the playoffs for this team to sneak in next season? After all this has largely been a "playoff or bust" off-season for the Canucks.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 07-10-2019 at 12:12 PM.
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07-10-2019, 12:11 PM
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#94
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Canada
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Their big moves are adding the following;
Miller: $5.25 million
Myers: $6 million
Ferland: $3.5 million (speculated)
Miller is a good player who will help but Myers isn't that great and Ferland is very streaky and injury prone. All I see here is a 1st round pick and a lot of money ($15 million/season) spent to become "improved".
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Miller may be a good player but he's the type of complementary player you bring on to give you that final push. It's a good contract and I'm sure he'll do well but you're right, they brought on $15 million in salary to tie up a team that hasn't had a chance to prove anything yet.
Let's hope they "improve" their way into a 9th place finish.
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07-10-2019, 12:15 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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The Canucks haven't made the playoffs in 4 seasons. Given the fairweather nature of the fanbase here I actually understand why the owners would favour a team more competitive now rather than hording draft picks and continuing to "be patient". Not sure how long rebuilds are supposed to last in today's NHL but I can see 4 years out being long enough before you'd want to see some results. They do already have some good young talent and at least on paper they've strengthened the team around them. I think they'll be a lot more competitive with this roster.
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07-10-2019, 12:16 PM
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#96
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Ferland agreed to 4 yr contract with the Vancouver Canucks. $3.5 million aav.
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07-10-2019, 12:17 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Don't forget they added an extra 2.2m for the Luongo Recapture too
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07-10-2019, 12:18 PM
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#98
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That's a decent deal for the Canucks. Ugh. I think their D is a definite question, but I think they are in a good spot to contend for a playoff spot this year.
It really annoys me that we keep giving money to 30+ over the hill garbage UFAs, leaving the flames out of contention on some pretty decent UFAs in their prime.
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07-10-2019, 12:23 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
This summer sucks.
Treliving's summer has not been strong.
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He has a 1st place team that had a bad playoff round - I like that he hasn't overreacted and done something instantly regrettable.
Congratulations, Ferland. There isn't a city I'd rather be rich in than Vancouver.
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07-10-2019, 12:25 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
What do they look like now?
Pearson - Pettersson - Boeser
Miller - Horvat - Ferland
Baertschi - Gaudette - Virtanen
Eriksson - Beagle - Sutter
Roussell
Goldobin
Edler - Stetcher
Hughes - Myers
Benn - Tanev
Markstrom
Demko
Better on paper for sure- I like this roster more than Edmonton's
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By acquiring Miller and Ferland they achieved what we couldn't either- create an (almost) entirely new top-6 line to compete. Time will tell if the players fit but I think it was an interesting set of moves. I also think that Myers has gone from overrated to underrated over the last few years, but we shall see. Hate the canucks but this new look lineup is much better than last years, and undoubtedly superior to what the oilers are going to ice next season.
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