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Old 12-07-2017, 09:43 PM   #21
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It’s not just public shaming and bullying that’s the problem, that’s part of it, but our messed up celebrity culture and disconnectedness are to blame as well.

People forget that the people on the other end of social media accounts are just that, people. Human beings like anyone else. Same with celebrities. From the way people treated this person to the way some fans on here talk about players on the Flames, there’s a bizarre and sad tendency to separate the human from the actor/player/politician/etc.

It’s sad, and it’s something that needs to stop.
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It is incredulous to label someone homophobic for refusing to have sex with someone who has not been tested for STDs.
I think you mean absurd, not incredulous. But it goes beyond this. Even if it wasn't based on practical concerns, you're also not homophobic if your sexual preferences happen to run the way of wanting a partner who isn't also attracted to members of the same sex. Just as you're not racist for, say, being attracted to black women more than asian women, or vice versa.

People just want something to be morally outraged about.
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:53 PM   #23
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Someone said on reddit that gay porn performers aren't subject the the standard STD testing regimen that straight performers must comply with. If that's the case, you can certainly see why female pornstars would balk at the idea of working with men who aren't tested for STDs. It is incredulous to label someone homophobic for refusing to have sex with someone who has not been tested for STDs, especially since the person in question is regularly having sex with new partners who have also not been tested.
That's an interesting viewpoint. I thought her objection was based on data that STDs are more prevalent in men that have sex with men. In fact I would be surprised the standard for testing was lower for gay porn because it shouldn't

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Old 12-07-2017, 10:02 PM   #24
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That's an interesting viewpoint. I thought her objection was based on data that STDs are more prevalent in men that have sex with men. In fact I would be surprised the standard for testing was lower for gay porn because it shouldn't
After only briefly working in the industry, I'm not sure of all the facts. But I would guess it is more along these lines: To do straight porn, a performer must comply with the testing requirements for straight porn. But maybe this young lady was being extra cautious, and not wanting to take the risk, regardless of what the most recent test results said.
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:48 PM   #25
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Really, her motives for not wanting to do something are irrelevant. I'm not sure when it became mandatory to have justification for what someone wants/doesn't want to do. We're a free society, thankfully, and anyone who becomes morally outraged over a private persons choices is, for the lack of better term, an idiot. I can't imagine the amount of self important, moral soap box inter-idiots some people have to deal with, but 98% of what I see is garbage opinions from all sides.
Very sad news when anyone can't work themselves out and takes their life. Abhorrent when random losers encourage it.
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Old 12-07-2017, 11:52 PM   #26
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After only briefly working in the industry, I'm not sure of all the facts. But I would guess it is more along these lines: To do straight porn, a performer must comply with the testing requirements for straight porn. But maybe this young lady was being extra cautious, and not wanting to take the risk, regardless of what the most recent test results said.
Just to clarify, you worked in the adult film industry? If so, you must have some great stories.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:10 AM   #27
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After only briefly working in the industry, I'm not sure of all the facts. But I would guess it is more along these lines: To do straight porn, a performer must comply with the testing requirements for straight porn. But maybe this young lady was being extra cautious, and not wanting to take the risk, regardless of what the most recent test results said.
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Just to clarify, you worked in the adult film industry? If so, you must have some great stories.
Just one, about this one time, I forgot to use green text.


As a somewhat regular person, I cannot begin to understand the fortitude required to interact with the general public on social media. It's something I've never embraced myself. I find it completely egotistical, spouting who knows what to hundreds, thousands, millions of followers. As pointed out in this thread, interacting with social media followers becomes part of the job for entertainers (of any sort). But not everyone is well suited for the job, and the throng of followers can quickly turn on you, deserved or not. Again as pointed out, it is best to remember that a real human being is behind all our online interactions.
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Old 12-08-2017, 06:56 AM   #29
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I read a couple articles about this but couldn't find any tweets that I thought were bullying directed towards her.

The tweets posted in the articles disagreed with her opinion but they weren't harassment.

I didn't look much deeper into it than the two articles and I hadn't read the twitter thread through.
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Old 12-08-2017, 07:34 AM   #30
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Again as pointed out, it is best to remember that a real human being is behind all our online interactions.
I often wonder, how many celebs who have their own accounts actually do their own tweeting/instragramming etc. I assume that most of it is done by a staffer and most of the times the celeb may not see the dumb comments
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I often wonder, how many celebs who have their own accounts actually do their own tweeting/instragramming etc. I assume that most of it is done by a staffer and most of the times the celeb may not see the dumb comments
You mean like the Donald?
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I read a couple articles about this but couldn't find any tweets that I thought were bullying directed towards her.

The tweets posted in the articles disagreed with her opinion but they weren't harassment.

I didn't look much deeper into it than the two articles and I hadn't read the twitter thread through.



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I don't want to live in a world where the adult film stars of the time aren't our moral compass. Also, do we live in a post fact world?


HIV Diagnoses Among the Most-Affected Subpopulations, 2015—United States

Abbreviation: MSM=men who have sex with men.

In 2014, gay and bisexual men accounted for an estimated 70% (26,200) of new HIV infections in the United States.

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/index.html



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Old 12-08-2017, 08:31 AM   #34
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Bruce Beckham is a terrible person when you read those tweets. The only thing he provided was confrontation.

He's a typical idiot who thinks that he's following some lofty goal, but in reality he's the type that should basically not be allowed to post on the Internet at all.
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:37 AM   #35
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I do think that gargamel does need to come in and clarify his statement though
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:43 AM   #36
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What is that graph showing?
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What is that graph showing?
Yeah, what is MSM? Main stream media? What does it have to do with the topic?
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:48 AM   #38
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What is that graph showing?
as near as I can tell, Main Stream Media is worse than heretosexual contact?
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:58 AM   #39
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even ignoring the MSM lines, I cannot figure out what the other categories are. where's Robert Langdon when you need him?
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What is that graph showing?

HIV Diagnoses Among the Most-Affected Subpopulations, 2015—United States

Abbreviation: MSM=men who have sex with men.
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