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Old 12-07-2017, 08:27 PM   #1
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Canadian porn performer August Ames was found dead on Tuesday, December 5. Ames, 23, died days after being attacked on Twitter and branded as homophobic after suggesting she wouldn’t perform in scenes with men who had done gay porn.
This is being picked up by mainstream news outlets so I figured it shouldnt be problematic posting it here. Posting the Vice link here but the Canadian newspaper chains have this on their websites as well.

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Old 12-07-2017, 08:31 PM   #2
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Well if true kind of over the top to commit suicide over twitter comments. Maybe she had other issues and this was the tipping point but seems strange to end your life over that. Not even sure why she was attacked in the first place as it seems pretty reasonable for a female to not want to cross into male gay porn.
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Well if true kind of over the top to commit suicide over twitter comments.
Because suicide usually happens as a result of a calm and rational thought process and makes perfect sense? What an insane post.
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Because suicide usually happens as a result of a calm and rational thought process and makes perfect sense? What an insane post.
LOL what? You think people don't contemplate suicide before going through with it? Most people have those thoughts long before committing the act. My complete post makes plenty of sense as she must have had other issues and this was simply a tipping point. I can't imagine anyone would get that distraught over a twitter incident to just randomly take their life.
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i seriously don't understand why people choose to share their opinions on social media where it can be seen by people outside your own personal networks.

I really like twitter, but i only use it as a strictly one-way interaction, where i basically follow news media, sports media, where it's like a real time news stream for me.

We live in a world where it is deemed important to not discuss certain things at work, or in public settings. Religion, politics, etc. Why is twittter any different? If she had a beef why post it on social media rather than working with her agent to ensure she only gets the kind of work she's ok with. Taking it to public opinion is just not going to ever end well.

It is sad to see a person who's only 23 take their own life, especially if this twitter debacle was really one of the causes of their angst.
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i seriously don't understand why people choose to share their opinions on social media where it can be seen by people outside your own personal networks.

I really like twitter, but i only use it as a strictly one-way interaction, where i basically follow news media, sports media, where it's like a real time news stream for me.

We live in a world where it is deemed important to not discuss certain things at work, or in public settings. Religion, politics, etc. Why is twittter any different? If she had a beef why post it on social media rather than working with her agent to ensure she only gets the kind of work she's ok with. Taking it to public opinion is just not going to ever end well.

It is sad to see a person who's only 23 take their own life, especially if this twitter debacle was really one of the causes of their angst.
She's in the entertainment business so it does make some sense to interact with strangers on social media to get her name out there.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:52 PM   #7
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Hard to brand her as homophobic as she stated she also liked women.

As an actress in her line of work I can see why she might not want to work with a guy who worked with other guys, and I don’t think what she said was homophobic.

I think to fully understand her point of view you may need more insight into the world of the making of adult movies.

If people where telling her to commit suicide they should be ashamed of themselves.
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She's in the entertainment business so it does make some sense to interact with strangers on social media to get her name out there.
interacting is one thing. However, putting out any kind of personal opinion seems like you're just asking for trouble.
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She was experiencing depression.

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Porn star August Ames, who died of a suicide by hanging on Tuesday, revealed her struggles with bipolar depression and multiple personality disorder just months before her death.
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As I figured. I know someone with bipolar depression and it's a constant struggle. Kind of unfortunate she found her way into that business which probably makes things worse.
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ugh, sad story indeed
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ugh, sad story indeed
If anyone watches Black Mirror this kind of situation reminds me of the "Hated in the nation" episode.
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Good thing we haven't invented bee drones yet.
bee drones?
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I edited my post as I figured a lot of people may not have understood (you as an example) as I don't know how many hear watch the Black Mirror (you should if you don't). You would have to see the Black Mirror episode to understand the comment. Social media is getting so over the top now with public shaming that you have to wonder if we have to make new laws to deal with situations like this. Sure the girl had issues but it's pretty clear the hate comments pushed her into taking her life and maybe there should be repercussions.
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I edited my post as I figured a lot of people may not have understood (you as an example) as I don't know how many hear watch the Black Mirror (you should if you don't). You would have to see the Black Mirror episode to understand the comment. Social media is getting so over the top now with public shaming that you have to wonder if we have to make new laws to deal with situations like this. Sure the girl had issues but it's pretty clear the hate comments pushed her into taking her life and maybe there should be repercussions.
Ahh ok. Thanks for clarifying. We started the show, but the wife, and me also I suppose, just found it too intense. Can definitely see the shows appeal though.
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LOL what? You think people don't contemplate suicide before going through with it? Most people have those thoughts long before committing the act. My complete post makes plenty of sense as she must have had other issues and this was simply a tipping point. I can't imagine anyone would get that distraught over a twitter incident to just randomly take their life.
You're attempting to layer the way the world seems to you over someone else's entirely different experience. That's not a slight on you; you simply don't have a frame of reference to understand it. This is still my favourite concise explanation of the mismatch, though in reference to alcoholism rather than depression.



How can you possibly know what it's like to live every day with ending your own life as a realistic possibility that's ever-present? Again, you can't, which isn't a fault on your part, but it makes it insanely hard to appreciate, similar to being unable to truly conceptualize what it would be like to live life from birth without sight or hearing. The actions and decisions of people who are mentally ill aren't necessarily capable of rationalization on the basis of what makes sense to someone who doesn't suffer from the same condition. I don't know this woman, but she probably didn't need a "tipping point" as you describe it. How can you not see death as a solution, how can you see it as something that shouldn't be considered? Her brain worked differently from yours.
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Tremendously sad story, Her chosen profession was her chosen profession but its sad to see a younger person take their own life.

Social Media has become the predominant platform for cowards to bully people that they don't know, and even though they didn't know that she had been fighting depression, they share a responsibility in her death.
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The common question is and I'm not looking for anyone to answer. But who here hasn't had a thought whether it crawls around in your brain for a long time, or whether its a fleeting thought contemplated suicide? Had the vision of slipping a pill, pulling a trigger, kicking a chair away, or imagining how it feels to fall and knowing that everything that made you miserable is behind you.

I'm betting that it fewer then you would think.
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That's missing the point. Who hasn't felt the urge to go and just get drunk? Who hasn't enjoyed the loss of inhibitions that accompanies it? That doesn't make everyone an alcoholic, or give the people who have felt that way a basis for understanding what it's like to be one. I suspect you're right; most people have considered what suicide would be like, at some point. But those thoughts probably don't sit next to you every day.
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Someone said on reddit that gay porn performers aren't subject the the standard STD testing regimen that straight performers must comply with. If that's the case, you can certainly see why female pornstars would balk at the idea of working with men who aren't tested for STDs. It is incredulous to label someone homophobic for refusing to have sex with someone who has not been tested for STDs, especially since the person in question is regularly having sex with new partners who have also not been tested.
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