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Old 05-16-2019, 10:13 AM   #3361
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I like the idea of a lunar gateway. I don't know what the point is on going to the moon unless we're setting up infrastructure to go further. Or looking at something more then just some people to land and walk around.



I think that the space program really needs to go beyond orbital space stations or returning to the moon or firing probes out. One of the big things about the space race was it inspired people and for a brief period expanded man's horizons. Its really time to do it again.


"We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard"


We should be building that laser focus to go beyond the moon.


Its time.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:53 AM   #3362
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I like the idea of a lunar gateway. I don't know what the point is on going to the moon unless we're setting up infrastructure to go further. Or looking at something more then just some people to land and walk around.



I think that the space program really needs to go beyond orbital space stations or returning to the moon or firing probes out. One of the big things about the space race was it inspired people and for a brief period expanded man's horizons. Its really time to do it again.


"We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard"


We should be building that laser focus to go beyond the moon.


Its time.
I think the biggest benefit of the Moon is being able to put Telescopes and instruments on the dark side of the Moon. Also if they can figure out how to extract fuel from the surface it would be much easier to get somewhere like Mars.
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One of the very few times that I can say something Trump has done is awesome.

Funding NASA, and space travel/research, is awesome.
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:29 AM   #3364
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I think the biggest benefit of the Moon is being able to put Telescopes and instruments on the dark side of the Moon. Also if they can figure out how to extract fuel from the surface it would be much easier to get somewhere like Mars.

I'm probably wrong, but isn't putting telescopes and sensors on the surface not as good as orbiting because of things like light radiation, seismic disturbances and shifting surfaces.


I get the fuel extract, and I call on the real world equivalent of Bruce Willis to make that happen.



I would think that one of the best things to do is to build a orbital vehicle assembly facility. Build ships in space which would reduce things like fuel usage and costs.
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I'm probably wrong, but isn't putting telescopes and sensors on the surface not as good as orbiting because of things like light radiation, seismic disturbances and shifting surfaces.


I get the fuel extract, and I call on the real world equivalent of Bruce Willis to make that happen.



I would think that one of the best things to do is to build a orbital vehicle assembly facility. Build ships in space which would reduce things like fuel usage and costs.
You are right. Also, the issue of Micrometeorites.
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I like the idea of a lunar gateway. I don't know what the point is on going to the moon unless we're setting up infrastructure to go further. Or looking at something more then just some people to land and walk around.

I think that the space program really needs to go beyond orbital space stations or returning to the moon or firing probes out. One of the big things about the space race was it inspired people and for a brief period expanded man's horizons. Its really time to do it again.

"We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard"

We should be building that laser focus to go beyond the moon.

Its time.
One of the steps that any space-faring civilization will need to go through is figuring out how to extract and work with materials in low gravity, low atmosphere conditions. To me, this should be one practical focus of going to the moon. Even if the primary element we're able to mine there is iron, we could someday bring up a small amount of carbon from earth to make steel. If we could become skilled in processing and working with steel in low gravity, zero atmosphere conditions, that would be a game-changer for us. The cost of orbit-to-orbit spacecraft would greatly decrease, and we could approach the solar radiation problem with massively thick hulls. Actually achieving that is a long way off, but I think that's where a lot of the science needs to be focused right now.
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:33 PM   #3367
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I'm probably wrong, but isn't putting telescopes and sensors on the surface not as good as orbiting because of things like light radiation, seismic disturbances and shifting surfaces.
It also isn’t any darker over there. It’s just the “far side” of the moon to us earthlings.
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One of the benefits, I think, is that the "dark side" is a radio dead zone, so a radio telescope is shielded form all our Earth garbage signals, since it is permanently oriented away from Earth.
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My excitement is building.
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Maybe some content for future game of thrones episodes
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:10 PM   #3371
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It also isn’t any darker over there. It’s just the “far side” of the moon to us earthlings.

I know, I've been there
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It also isn’t any darker over there. It’s just the “far side” of the moon to us earthlings.
But it is for a few days a month. Night on the near side of the moon is awash in earth glow. But on the far side it is dark.

I think the best application for moon mission is as a proving ground for technology, as some have mentioned resource extraction, but also life support system, radiation shielding, long duration-lowG health impacts, crop production....
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But it is for a few days a month. Night on the near side of the moon is awash in earth glow. But on the far side it is dark.

I think the best application for moon mission is as a proving ground for technology, as some have mentioned resource extraction, but also life support system, radiation shielding, long duration-lowG health impacts, crop production....

Weapons testing. We have to be prepared for anything.
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Pfizer discovers a breakthrough on Alzheimer's prevention, and decides that it would cut into their profits to pursue the technology. They also don't tell anyone non-profit, because it sets a poor precedent for the creation of cures that could undercut their current treatment profits.

I apologize for not embedding the original Washington Post story, as that site splash added the crap out of me.

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A U.S. drug company did not openly share or perform further studies on a successful rheumatoid arthritis medicine that internal researchers suggested was reducing the risk of Alzheimer's disease by 64 percent, according to Washington Post article published Tuesday.

Researchers at Pfizer reportedly urged the firm to conduct a clinical trial after finding the potential hidden benefit of the anti-inflammatory drug Enbrel while analyzing insurance claims.

It was estimated to cost $80 million to conduct the trial, and Pfizer decided to pass.
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SpaceX is targeting Monday, June 24 for a Falcon Heavy launch of the STP-2 mission from Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A) at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The primary launch window opens at 11:30 p.m. EDT, or 3:30 UTC on June 25, and closes at 3:30 a.m. EDT on June 25, or 7:30 UTC. A backup launch window opens on June 25 at 11:30 p.m. EDT, or 3:30 UTC on June 26, and closes at 3:30 a.m. EDT on June 26, or 7:30 UTC. Deployments will begin approximately 12 minutes after liftoff and end approximately 3 hours and 32 minutes after liftoff.
Falcon Heavy’s side boosters for the STP-2 mission previously supported the Arabsat-6A mission in April 2019. Following booster separation, Falcon Heavy’s two side boosters will attempt to land at SpaceX’s Landing Zones 1 and 2 (LZ-1 and LZ-2) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. Falcon Heavy’s center core will attempt to land on the “Of Course I Still Love You” droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.
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