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Old 06-23-2018, 04:02 PM   #1021
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When the Predators traded Jimmy Vesey's rights, they got a 4th round pick. So, I guess that's a decent approximation of what Fox is worth? From Treliving's comments, it sounds like he plans to become a UFA, so really all Carolina is buying is negotiation time.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:04 PM   #1022
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I don't know if I posted a lineup already here but I don't care, here's what I want to see after July 1:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Jankowski - Vanek/Perron
Bennett - Backlund - Frolik
Versteeg - Shore - Ryan
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Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kulak - Andersson
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:04 PM   #1023
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I predict Ferland and Hamilton each get 10 goals next year and all you people over reacting on this deal will be praising BT. Great deal.


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Old 06-23-2018, 04:05 PM   #1024
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I'm thinking we see this:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk
Bennett - Lindholm - UFA/Brouwer
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Lazar - Shore - Foo/rookie

Depending on what that UFA piece is or how camp goes could juggle things. But I still think we need one more offensive threat, ideally RH
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:07 PM   #1025
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When the Predators traded Jimmy Vesey's rights, they got a 4th round pick. So, I guess that's a decent approximation of what Fox is worth? From Treliving's comments, it sounds like he plans to become a UFA, so really all Carolina is buying is negotiation time.
I could see him not wanting to sign in Calgary, but to play two more years of NCAA to become a UFA? Instead of signing next year and burning year 1? Seems unlikely to me but then again I never went to Harvard...
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:10 PM   #1026
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Overall don't mind the trade.

I am fine with Lindholm and Hanifin for Hamilton and Ferland. The Flames need a higher compete level and with concerns about Hamilton off ice and Ferland's concussion issues it makes sense.

I just don't like Adam Fox being included. If he wasn't going to sign, that's fair. But why throw him in this deal?

Keep him and use him to trade for an asset from another team.

I would've been good with Lindholm & Hanifin for Hamilton and Ferland.

Then trade Fox for a 1st rounder or another blue chipper.

I guess we will be able to judge this trade better in 3-5 years.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:11 PM   #1027
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Noah Hanifin found out about the trade when he was in the movie theatre watching Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom with his brother.

I love this guy already
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:11 PM   #1028
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So both players traded from the Flames need to perform at a substandard level for this to be a solid trade?
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:11 PM   #1029
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Flames dealt from a position of strength to address some deficiencies in the forward group. They didn't address all the problems, but the deal goes to shoring up the offensive output.

Hamilton was clearly a problem.

Brodie goes back to the right side. The Flames improve offensively. They avoid a Bouma situation where they're paying a bottom 6 forward big money to not doing anything in Ferland.

They hold onto all of their most NHL ready defensive prospects. They don't let a situation progress to an Erixon type last minute nail biter.

Hanifin is the better player as compared to Hamilton right now IMO.

I love this trade.
Preach!

I'm now reading through the thread, and this makes all sorts of sense to me. I think this team is going to be really hitting it's stride in the next 2 or 3 years. This is a move that puts the Flames into the conversation of legitimate contenders.






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As long as Mike Smith keeps playing well. (please let one of our goalie prospects become a starter... )
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Vancouver was rumored to be after Hanifin and Hamilton when they had 7th OA still in the draft and Calgary somehow still managed to screw then over.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:12 PM   #1031
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My 8 year old daughter likes the trade.

Me: Flames made a trade.
Her: Did they trade Johnny??!?!??!
Me: No. They traded for a guy named Lindholm, who will probably play with Johnny.
Her: So, Johnny, Monny and.....Lindy?
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:13 PM   #1032
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I'm thinking we see this:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk
Bennett - Lindholm - UFA/Brouwer
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Lazar - Shore - Foo/rookie

Depending on what that UFA piece is or how camp goes could juggle things. But I still think we need one more offensive threat, ideally RH
I bet we see Lindholm on the wing

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - UFA
Lazar - Shore - Brouwer
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How was Hamilton clearly a problem?
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:15 PM   #1034
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4 quick Lindholm highlights. Kid can snipe and has good hands.



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I bet we see Lindholm on the wing

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - UFA
Lazar - Shore - Brouwer
I'm guessing they'll experiment with both. Going to come down to whether or not Peters is happy with Jankowski at C or not I think. There's been chatter of him wanting to try Tkachuk on the right side which is why I'd posted my lineup
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Preach!

I'm now reading through the thread, and this makes all sorts of sense to me. I think this team is going to be really hitting it's stride in the next 2 or 3 years. This is a move that puts the Flames into the conversation of legitimate contenders.






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posters here said this a year ago
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:16 PM   #1037
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Overall don't mind the trade.

I am fine with Lindholm and Hanifin for Hamilton and Ferland. The Flames need a higher compete level and with concerns about Hamilton off ice and Ferland's concussion issues it makes sense.

I just don't like Adam Fox being included. If he wasn't going to sign, that's fair. But why throw him in this deal?

Keep him and use him to trade for an asset from another team.

I would've been good with Lindholm & Hanifin for Hamilton and Ferland.

Then trade Fox for a 1st rounder or another blue chipper.

I guess we will be able to judge this trade better in 3-5 years.

Likely because Carolina doesn't agree to the deal without him.

So do you walk away from acquiring the two players you got because you didn't want to include a guy you knew you couldn't sign or do you go ahead and make the trade and get the guys you do covet?
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My first thought is that we paid too much. I don't hate the trade, both Lindholm and Hanifin are good young players, just feel we should have got a pick or prospect back. Obviously I don't know any of the behind the scenes stuff but judging by this trade Fox wasn't going to sign here and there was off ice issues with Dougie.

Still think the team needs another top 6 RWer...
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But they finally got rid of that cancer Hamilton!!
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I’d like to see:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk/Lindholm
Bennett - Jankowski - Lindholm/Tkachuk
Mangiapane/Klimchuk - Backlund - Frolik
Brouwer - Shore - Lazar
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