2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Nylander for Pesce makes sense.

It has to be Slavin to be fair

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

It has to be Slavin to be fair

I don’t think it’s a bad idea for the Leafs. Pesce is a righty who makes $1.3 mil less than Slavin on a long term deal. I also think the Leafs could use Horton in deal which would allow the Canes to meet minimum cap without spending money to get there. Canes add a 2nd Leafs should consider it

[Mattman]

Throwing my big bold prediction for the Flames season in here:

"Flames goaltending is Achilles heel in first 30 games"
and I'm speculating the Flames have options to make a big move for a true #1 goalie

(This isn't a knock on Mike Smith, nor is this post about him.)

Spoiler!

Look I think this team can be great, Treliving and co. have done a tremendous job of the rebuild and now this looks like a team that can get back to the 2nd round of the playoffs. This team is just entering their window to be able to contend for the Cup, except for the one fact: The Flames don't have Stanley Cup goaltending.

Just look at the last 8 years for the goaltenders of the finalist teams. All talented goalies.

(Wash) Holtby : (VGK) Fluery
(Pit) Murray/Fluery : (Nash) Rinne
(Pit) Murray/Fluery : (SJS) Jones
(Chi) Crawford : (TBL) Bishop
(LAK) Quick : (NYR) Lundquivst
(Chi) Crawford : (Bos) Rask
(LAK) Quick : (NJD) Broduer

I love Mike Smith, nothing against the guy but he simply does not stack up to that, and if this team wants to be competitive in that regard, we are going to need to be better. And after him the talent is there but not quite..

Gilles - Maybe he breaks out but he doesn't look ready yet.
Rittich - Backup at best. Couldn't carry this team.
Parsons - Alot of potential, I think he could be the future of the team. 2-4 years out still.
McDonald - ...

I'm curious in a few story-lines this year and a couple of them include some goaltenders who have that Stanley Cup caliber.

Montreal's Carey Price, Columbus' Sergei Bobrovsky and Nashville's Pekka Rinne.

Carey Price - 31 years old - 7 years - $10,500,000
Let me start with Montreal. They are a weird looking team. I don't know what their plan is, rebuilding? shooting for a wildcard spot? They seem lost. If Montreal has an off year, which no doubt they will, hopefully they are in a position to deal Carey Price. The only thing stopping this and making it unrealistic is the term and price for Price.
Bottom line: If Treliving can be a wizard, and Bergevin can be Bergevin then maybe just maybe.

Pekka Rinne - 35 years old - 1 year - $7,00,000
Nashville is a Stanley Cup contending team. President's trophy winners last year and they are bound to dominate the Central division again. The only question they have is 'what to do in net?'. Saross is bound to take over and that may mean Rinne is out of a job, simply because of the fact he is still on top of his game at 35. Nashville might not need 2 starting goaltenders if Saroos breaks through this year. And if they decide to ship him before the deadline could return some good pieces to help them deep in the post season.
The only hesitation here is Rinne's age and what to do with him after next year. But who knows, we have had luck with Finnish goaltenders

Sergei Bobrovsky 30 years old - 1 year - $7,450,000
There is a ton of chatter surrounding the Columbus Blue Jackets and their two biggest players, Artemi Panarin and Sergei Bobrovsky. If it so happens the Blue Jackets find themselves out of the playoff race (unlikely), maybe they pull the trigger on getting a return on Bobrovsky. Also signs pointing to a move is young backup Korpisalo, who has put up decent numbers, waiting to get his shot. Also if the Flames window to win is within the next 6 or so years, who better than a 30 year old, 2 time Vezina winner to take you there.
The only whats if are "what if Bobrovsky decides to re-sign?" or "what if Columbus has a dominant season?".



The Flames have pieces they can move, they are well stocked with prospects and very deep up and down the roster. And if they managed to swing one of these goalies, regardless of price or logistics, I think that makes Calgary a Stanley Cup contender.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Mattman

Carey Price - 31 years old - 7 years - $10,500,000

Pekka Rinne - 35 years old - 1 year - $7,00,000

Sergei Bobrovsky 30 years old - 1 year - $7,450,000

One overpaid goalie on a pretty bad looking contract who is often injured and coming off a bad year.


2 amazing regular season goalies who, just going off memory, haven't been good in the playoffs.


I'd rather not go for any of these 3, especially giving up a bunch of assets.

[PepsiFree]

I’d go in on Bobrovsky, maybe Price (but that salary, woof).

The only other real options are guys you take a chance on and see if they’re starter material. That might be worth it considering the upcoming contracts, and with some of the young guys potentially expanding our window I think we can afford another miss, if it happens.

[PepsiFree]

I’d go in on Bobrovsky, maybe Price (but that salary, woof).

The only other real options are guys you take a chance on and see if they’re starter material. That might be worth it considering the upcoming contracts, and with some of the young guys potentially expanding our window I think we can afford another miss, if it happens.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Mattman

Carey Price - 31 years old - 7 years - $10,500,000

Pekka Rinne - 35 years old - 1 year - $7,00,000

Sergei Bobrovsky 30 years old - 1 year - $7,450,000

· Price's contract is a non-starter. Too much money and for WAY too much term.
· The only problem with Mike Smith is his age. Replacing a 36-year-old goalie with a 35-year-old goalie is also a non-starter.
· I think the only way Treliving trades for a goalie in the season is if it is to acquire one like Bobrovsky. Unfortunately, I am highly sceptical that one becomes available.

I still think that the window for this group is big enough that Treliving still has time to fix this one remaining big hole. I think he sticks with Smith and Rittich and they do fine, and then he makes a move to upgrade the position in the offseason.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The only problem with Mike Smith is his age. Replacing a 36-year-old goalie with a 35-year-old goalie is also a non-starter.

...Besides his health, inability to stop a beach ball at the Dome, and weak play down the stretch?

Admittedly that last one may or may not go hand-in-hand with the first two, but it's still not quite as simplistic as you've let on.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

...Besides his health, inability to stop a beach ball at the Dome, and weak play down the stretch?

Admittedly that last one may or may not go hand-in-hand with the first two, but it's still not quite as simplistic as you've let on.

Not quite, but I still think that Rinne's age disqualifies him as a viable option for the Flames this season.

[DoubleK]

I'd be in on Bob, but can't fit him and Chucky in next year without moving someone.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Not quite, but I still think that Rinne's age disqualifies him as a viable option for the Flames this season.

If Smith were to suffer another major injury this season, one would have to think Rinne would be one of the guys on the radar, because we already know Rittich and Gillies are not capable of handling that workload barring some major jump forward in development.

Price is a no-go and Bobrovsky is likely a pipe dream, just like you said. Rinne might not be a bad gamble depending on the cost, even as a Cujo-type veteran backup if the Flames can fit his pro-rated cap hit into their salary structure at the TD.

[DoubleK]

Waive Rittich, if he gets claimed, sign Lethonen?

Might not be a terrible Plan B.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

If Smith were to suffer another major injury this season, one would have to think Rinne would be one of the guys on the radar, because we already know Rittich and Gillies are not capable of handling that workload barring some major jump forward in development.

Price is a no-go and Bobrovsky is likely a pipe dream, just like you said. Rinne might not be a bad gamble depending on the cost, even as a Cujo-type veteran backup if the Flames can fit his pro-rated cap hit into their salary structure at the TD.

The ONLY conditions under which I would consider a trade for Rinne is in the event that Smith is injured. I have said it a few times now, but I expect Rittich and Gillies both to be better this year. Given their track record it is not an unreasonable expectation.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Waive Rittich, if he gets claimed, sign Lethonen?

Might not be a terrible Plan B.

But why would they sign Lehtonen?
Gillies would be the backup in the NHL, and Parsons would be the starter in Stockton.

It wouldn't be smart to have a goalie tandem that averages 36 years old.
At this point, the backup spot should be used as a development role.

If Gillies fails? Then call Parsons up. Still no need to Lehtonen under and circumstances that I can see.

[Poe969]

I'd go all in on Babrovsky. Even if it's just for the year, having a goalie like him with the current team would be amazing. The Flames would be contenders, legitimate Stanley Cup contenders.

[Iggy3x]

If we can get Price that's a no brainer. It's like getting Roy, gives the team a chance at the cup every year. We have good young players on good contacts, so this is our chance. Why save money if the aim is not the cup.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

But why would they sign Lehtonen?
Gillies would be the backup in the NHL, and Parsons would be the starter in Stockton.

It wouldn't be smart to have a goalie tandem that averages 36 years old.
At this point, the backup spot should be used as a development role.

If Gillies fails? Then call Parsons up. Still no need to Lehtonen under and circumstances that I can see.

This is a reasonable possibility, but I still don't see that Gillies is clearly a better choice to start in Calgary than Rittich. Does his marginally better preseason completely overwrite Rittich's 2017–18 NHL season performance? I doubt very much that any NHL coach would think so. People are putting way too much stock in goalie performances in the preseason.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Iggy3x

If we can get Price that's a no brainer. It's like getting Roy, gives the team a chance at the cup every year. We have good young players on good contacts, so this is our chance. Why save money if the aim is not the cup.

God, no. He is under contract for EIGHT YEARS at a +$10 m cap hit. That is simply much too much money to have invested in the position. It's a crippling contract.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I'd go all in on Babrovsky. Even if it's just for the year, having a goalie like him with the current team would be amazing. The Flames would be contenders, legitimate Stanley Cup contenders.

So, what is "all in" in your mind?

[Vinny01]

Did Steve Mason wind up somewhere?