The Democratic Presidential Nomination 2020

[Johnny Makarov]

Don't see what the problem is. Bloomberg did spend $500 trillion on ads so the math is right.

[Ark2]

Biden now with a 7 in 8 chance to win the nomination and Bernie is basically dead in the water according to 538. This is great news for America!

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...mary-forecast/

Let's hope this is the last that we hear of Sanders

[doozwimp]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

This isnt gonna look good for Bernie in the US

https://twitter.com/user/status/1235747172538126338

Was a little unsure about the Presidential timeline but was thinking that would have been during Reagan's era of cultural remediation to the Soviet Union. Turns out I was right. I get the angle they are going for but it's a non event.

Bernie Sanders’s Soviet sister-city outreach wasn’t unusual. It was a Reagan initiative.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...an-initiative/

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Biden now with a 7 in 8 chance to win the nomination and Bernie is basically dead in the water according to 538. This is great news for America!

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...mary-forecast/

Let's hope this is the last that we hear of Sanders

Its amazing what a week can do. Bernie throwing everything at Michigan shows that I think he even knows that this thing is coming to an end.


I would expect this will end Bernie's runs at the Presidency He'll be 82 by the time the next election comes around.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Biden now with a 7 in 8 chance to win the nomination and Bernie is basically dead in the water according to 538. This is great news for America!

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...mary-forecast/

Let's hope this is the last that we hear of Sanders

Bye Felicia!

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Ark2

Biden now with a 7 in 8 chance to win the nomination and Bernie is basically dead in the water according to 538. This is great news for America!

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...mary-forecast/

Let's hope this is the last that we hear of Sanders

Genuinely good news for America.

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by peter12

Genuinely good news for America.

Why?

Seriously, as one who lives in Vancouver (if I recall correctly) and who presumably enjoys the Canadian health care system as a consequence thereof, on what basis do you make such a pronouncement that his departure, and the likely demise of a Medicare-For-All plan, is “genuinely good news for America”?

Because I sure would like to have Medicare-For-All.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

Why?

Seriously, as one who lives in Vancouver (if I recall correctly) and who presumably enjoys the Canadian health care system as a consequence thereof, on what basis do you make such a pronouncement that his departure, and the likely demise of a Medicare-For-All plan, is “genuinely good news for America”?

Because I sure would like to have Medicare-For-All.

You recall correctly that I live in Vancouver - a good city with quite agreeable weather.

Ummm, America isn't Canada and different systems and approaches should apply to solving something like healthcare.

We have a society about 11 times smaller than the Americans and we still have a hard time making universal healthcare scale properly. In fact, it doesn't even really work here all that well.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

Why?

Seriously, as one who lives in Vancouver (if I recall correctly) and who presumably enjoys the Canadian health care system as a consequence thereof, on what basis do you make such a pronouncement that his departure, and the likely demise of a Medicare-For-All plan, is “genuinely good news for America”?

Because I sure would like to have Medicare-For-All.

Centrists and right wingers have been conditioned to fear the word socialism their entire lives. I don’t blame them for letting their fears control them. They don’t know any better, even those who live in Canada and benefit from many of the same things Sanders would like to pursue in the US.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by peter12

You recall correctly that I live in Vancouver - a good city with quite agreeable weather.

Ummm, America isn't Canada and different systems and approaches should apply to solving something like healthcare.

We have a society about 11 times smaller than the Americans and we still have a hard time making universal healthcare scale properly. In fact, it doesn't even really work here all that well.

I mean, I have to assume the really basic stuff works much better here; ie people not waiting until they are on death's door to go clog up an emergency room, general preventative care, and people not being buried under tens of thousands of dollars debt because they were unlucky.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

Why?

Seriously, as one who lives in Vancouver (if I recall correctly) and who presumably enjoys the Canadian health care system as a consequence thereof, on what basis do you make such a pronouncement that his departure, and the likely demise of a Medicare-For-All plan, is “genuinely good news for America”?

Because I sure would like to have Medicare-For-All.

The issue isn't whether health care for all is a good idea or not, the issue is whether the US would elect Bernie.

It's like buying a lotto ticket, yes winning 10,000 bucks would be great but chances are I'm just going to get poorer

[peter12]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I mean, I have to assume the really basic stuff works much better here; ie people not waiting until they are on death's door to go clog up an emergency room, general preventative care, and people not being buried under tens of thousands of dollars debt because they were unlucky.

As I said hundreds of years ago, the appropriate comparisons Canadians should use are to systems in Europe and not America.

That said, Americans shouldn't be looking to Canada or Europe for inspirations on how to fix their healthcare system.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Centrists and right wingers have been conditioned to fear the word socialism their entire lives. I don’t blame them for letting their fears control them. They don’t know any better, even those who live in Canada and benefit from many of the same things Sanders would like to pursue in the US.

I don't care about socialism at all. Social democracy seems to work well some places. I don't think it would work well in America. It is the antithesis of America.

[PsYcNeT]

I dunno guys, I don't think this is going to go very well.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1235674837592535040

https://twitter.com/user/status/1235719995419750400

[Senator Clay Davis]

Doesn't get more peak America than three 70+ year olds with various degrees of failing health are the three remaining options #MakeGeriatricsGreatAgain

[Looch City]

Meh, that stuff only helps Trump and the Republicans.

Really at this time where it's becoming more and more obvious that Biden will be the candidate, what's the point in sharing those tweets?

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by peter12

You recall correctly that I live in Vancouver - a good city with quite agreeable weather.

Ummm, America isn't Canada and different systems and approaches should apply to solving something like healthcare.

We have a society about 11 times smaller than the Americans and we still have a hard time making universal healthcare scale properly. In fact, it doesn't even really work here all that well.

You didn’t answer my question.

Why is Sanders’ probable departure from the primary scene genuinely good news for America?

For the record, I found the Canadian health care system to work just fine—even very well— for my wife and I when we lived in Calgary.

And, as an aside, I simply highlighted one portion of Sanders platform (health care) while noting, obviously not well, the apparent smugness and lack of awareness that one must have to remark that it is good for America not to even have the chance to vote for someone who would attempt to enact something while the one doing the remarking enjoys that very same something and is making no apparent effort to give it up.

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

The issue isn't whether health care for all is a good idea or not, the issue is whether the US would elect Bernie.

It's like buying a lotto ticket, yes winning 10,000 bucks would be great but chances are I'm just going to get poorer

I honestly think that between Trump and Sanders, Sanders would win.

Especially if the economy keeps cratering and people start losing their jobs.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

You didn’t answer my question.

Why is Sanders’ probable departure from the primary scene genuinely good news for America?

There is a largely held belief that Sanders as the nominee will guarantee 4 more years of Trump.

Too bad for them, but I don't know if I can disagree. It is hard to see the U.S. electing a true socialist. Biden is probably as good as it gets if they want a chance at beating Trump.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Doesn't get more peak America than three 70+ year olds with various degrees of failing health are the three remaining options #MakeGeriatricsGreatAgain

With the backdrop of a virus circulating that is killing that demographic at a pretty high rate.