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Old 03-19-2023, 07:31 AM   #201
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How about bank bail-in as opposed to bail out like Greece had?

Could the continued stress on banks lead to this?

https://www.cdic.ca/what-happens-in-...bail-in-works/
It’s possible, but the issue is smaller US regionals. The Canadian banks are fine. It’s interesting, because Canada implemented those bail-in bonds after the GFC. I’m not entirely sure whether all bonds issued by banks can be converted or just those bail-in bonds.
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Old 03-19-2023, 07:32 AM   #202
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Also this was interesting for me to find out. RESP’s are covered by CDIC up to $100,000 but only if they are in GIC or term deposits.

https://www.cdic.ca/your-coverage/ho...ngs-plan-resp/
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Well the VCs were all super libertarian when it was a discussion about student loan forgiveness or help for people during the pandemic. But when they were the ones on the receiving end they were all begging to have potential losses backstopped. Suddenly, they’re all socialists!
Haha yeah, the age old shocking changes in ideals based on what results in people keeping more money.
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Old 03-19-2023, 11:11 AM   #204
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Also this was interesting for me to find out. RESP’s are covered by CDIC up to $100,000 but only if they are in GIC or term deposits.

https://www.cdic.ca/your-coverage/ho...ngs-plan-resp/
Yes, they must be “deposits,” which GICs and term deposits are. Mutual funds are not guaranteed (except for seg funds).
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Old 03-19-2023, 12:16 PM   #205
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Also this was interesting for me to find out. RESP’s are covered by CDIC up to $100,000 but only if they are in GIC or term deposits.

https://www.cdic.ca/your-coverage/ho...ngs-plan-resp/
Which is the exact same as any type of account. Accounts held as deposits in a bank are covered by CDIC and securities held in a brokerage are directly owned by the individual and then any losses due to fraud/incompetence on the part of the brokerage are covered by the CIPF.
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Old 03-19-2023, 03:01 PM   #206
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UBS lowered their offer for Credit Suisse down from Fridays $8B to $2B citing risk. The offer was reported as low as $1B at one point, which Credit Suisse flat out refused, prompting fears the bank would get nationalized. All this despite a $50B loan guarantee from the Swiss National Bank.

We'll see if this calms market panik or makes it worse.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/19/ubs-...s-reports.html

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Old 03-19-2023, 04:06 PM   #207
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Which is the exact same as any type of account. Accounts held as deposits in a bank are covered by CDIC and securities held in a brokerage are directly owned by the individual and then any losses due to fraud/incompetence on the part of the brokerage are covered by the CIPF.
No, the CIPF covers insolvency. It explicitly does not cover fraudulent claims made to you (as a client) or incompetence. You would have to pursue that through Errors and Omissions coverage that all licensed individuals must carry.
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UBS lowered their offer for Credit Suisse down from Fridays $8B to $2B citing risk. The offer was reported as low as $1B at one point, which Credit Suisse flat out refused, prompting fears the bank would get nationalized. All this despite a $50B loan guarantee from the Swiss National Bank.

We'll see if this calms market panik or makes it worse.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/19/ubs-...s-reports.html

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I have to say that I'm consistently underwhelmed concerning the overall robustness of the Global Financial system.

It seems like every other year a stiff breeze is threatening to collapse the Global Financial system.

Perhaps something as important as this ought to be redesigned so as to be a wee bit sturdier?
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I have to say that I'm consistently underwhelmed concerning the overall robustness of the Global Financial system.

It seems like every other year a stiff breeze is threatening to collapse the Global Financial system.

Perhaps something as important as this ought to be redesigned so as to be a wee bit sturdier?
Well that would mean more regulation, and that’s unpossible because reasons (meaning corruption).
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How much longer? I'm impatient.
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Did we ever figure out what YO means?
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Did we ever figure out what YO means?
You've never heard the term yo?
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Did we ever figure out what YO means?
Contextually, it means “the banks are going down the tubes, and that’s what’s up”
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Lol right this bit of fear mongering hysteria. Went well I think
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Society as we know it hasn't collapsed yet?
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Lol right this bit of fear mongering hysteria. Went well I think
Did for me, I dropped 10 grand on Scotia Bank, it made me 3% this month
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Did we ever figure out what YO means?
Before the mid-2000s the YO section was quite insignificant and tucked away at the back of bookstores. Then after the Harry Potter hysteria (and the generations that followed such as Twilight and Hunger Games), the genre saw explosive growth and the expansive, multi-aisle sections we know now popped up and were moved front and centre.
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Old 04-18-2023, 02:54 PM   #218
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Society as we know it hasn't collapsed yet?
Soooooooonnnnnnnnnn
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Eh, I think that we were probably much closer to a total financial system collapse than many here are willing to glibly remark about. There are plenty of stories of Janet Yellen on the phone at 2am trying to ensure that CS gets bought out... No way she's doing that sort of work at her age/ stature unless the problem is ####ing bad. So maybe we were saved this time. But typically, they have saved us by kicking the can down the road. I am fairly certain that's what's happened here.
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True indeed there is a good market for predicting doom. The great thing is no matter what you’re eventually right
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