Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Muta]

Originally Posted by BowRiverBruinsRule

She doesn't seem well. Maybe the crack she talks about. What a disgusting person.

The amount of lying, truth bending, confrontational rhetoric and dangerous hyperbole this woman spews on a regular basis - she should really be held legally accountable for. How Marlaina gets away with this stuff without media and institutions calling this crap out daily on a large scale, or law enforcement investigations into the fallout of her conduct, is beyond me.

[MoneyGuy]

Does that mean that when the fire season reaches crisis state and municipalities need help, the feds won't be able to send any personnel, equipment, money and so on without Smith’s approval?

[getbak]

And of course, they're the first to complain about how much money the federal government takes out of Alberta and never sends any back.

[MoneyGuy]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1778530535272595627

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

What happens to a city that just ignores the legislation, similar to how Alberta treats Federal ones?

Same with our universities. UCalgary for example receives about 35% of its research funding from federal levels. Will a Masters or PhD student who used to receive NSRC funding (which is essentially a necessity) need approval from the provincial government to apply and/or receive it.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

What happens to a city that just ignores the legislation, similar to how Alberta treats Federal ones?

I think we are about to find out. I don't believe Edmonton and Calgary are going to just follow this legislation without a challenge.

[Burninator]

With possible fed money tied to the rezoning to be voted later this month, it could be a first test of this maybe?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Does that mean that when the fire season reaches crisis state and municipalities need help, the feds won't be able to send any personnel, equipment, money and so on without Smith’s approval?

It has to go through the Province first so Marlaina can take a slice.

[timun]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I just mentioned to my wife that AM (AUMA) should encourage municipalities to ignore that law if enacted. If all do that, what’s the province to do? Punish the municipalities financially, I suppose, but there’s strength in numbers.

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

What happens to a city that just ignores the legislation, similar to how Alberta treats Federal ones?

Exactly what I was thinking: if the provincial government can just enact a "sovereignty" act that declares they can unilaterally ignore federal policies that "harm Albertans", what's stopping the municipalities from each enacting a "Sovereignty Within a United Alberta Bylaw" that declares they can unilaterally ignore anything the province does that "harms Calgarians/Edmontonians/<insert municipality>-ians", such as middle-man their way into federal funding programs?

These are the sorts of moronic things that happen when you open that Pandora's box of stupid crap.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by timun

Exactly what I was thinking: if the provincial government can just enact a "sovereignty" act that declares they can unilaterally ignore federal policies that "harm Albertans", what's stopping the municipalities from each enacting a "Sovereignty Within a United Alberta Bylaw" that declares they can unilaterally ignore anything the province does that "harms Calgarians/Edmontonians/<insert municipality>-ians", such as middle-man their way into federal funding programs?

These are the sorts of moronic things that happen when you open that Pandora's box of stupid crap.

Municipalities exist at the pleasure of the provincial government unfortunately. Not sure if they could do anything legally, but hopefully they can show their citizens what a idiotic law this is.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

https://twitter.com/user/status/1777859965828685882

I used to think "Cultural Victories" in Civilization were kind of lame.

Now I get it.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Does that mean that when the fire season reaches crisis state and municipalities need help, the feds won't be able to send any personnel, equipment, money and so on without Smith’s approval?

Hasn't it allows been the responsibility of the provinces to request assistance from the feds when dealing with crisis and emergency situations? Does this changes any of that? I remember allows hearing about "province x requesting help from the federal government" in the news. The only time I remember the feds taking over a situation unilaterally is the convoy protest through the use of the emergency act.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Burninator

With possible fed money tied to the rezoning to be voted later this month, it could be a first test of this maybe?

It would apply to agreements signed beginning in 2025. If that was done ahead of that, it would be a factor unless it was going to be amended.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

Municipalities exist at the pleasure of the provincial government unfortunately. Not sure if they could do anything legally, but hopefully they can show their citizens what a idiotic law this is.

I realize municipalities have no basis in constitutional law and are a creation of the provinces, but legally our provincial government can't just ignore federal law either, and that hasn't stopped 'em.

[Whynotnow]

Another bonkers policy from a gone mad ( or always mad) provincial government of ours that nobody was asking for and solves no real problems. She even says that she is worried that the federal government is potentially being political in their funding for research projects and they need to know that.

There is just no end to the problems this could cause. Research funding into topics such as abortion, climate change, renewable energy, post oil and gas employment, the impacts of privatizing health care….the list goes on and on as to what these ghouls may object to.

They will of course say that’s an over reaction and they won’t want to impede things but we all know that’s a lie.

[puffnstuff]

Its a constant cycle of the ucp doing things that they didnt run on and that solves no problem that needs fixing.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

Another bonkers policy from a gone mad ( or always mad) provincial government of ours that nobody was asking for and solves no real problems. She even says that she is worried that the federal government is potentially being political in their funding for research projects and they need to know that.

There is just no end to the problems this could cause. Research funding into topics such as abortion, climate change, renewable energy, post oil and gas employment, the impacts of privatizing health care….the list goes on and on as to what these ghouls may object to.

They will of course say that’s an over reaction and they won’t want to impede things but we all know that’s a lie.

Not to mention that the Federal government is not involved in making specific research funding decisions. The interviewed the head of the association of Alberta researchers (or some such name) on CBC this morning and he was appalled. He explained that research is funded in a competitive process based on merit, as judged by panels of other researchers with no government involvement. He has sat on such boards and stated that Albertans are typically over-represented on those boards.

As far as finding out what research is being funded....it's all publicly available online. She is so full of shift.

[Jimmy Stang]

It is important to get this "funding gatekeeper" thing on people's minds before the poop really hits the fan regarding the blanket rezoning. The UCP won't want to miss capitalizing on a little bit of outrage.

"See what the FEDS and the CITY are doing to you? We'll save you from that."

And of course, they are going to make sure it extends into education, research, etc. while they're at it. They same way they took a fear of trans people among their base, and didn't just attack them, and now kids won't be able to get simple sex ed in school unless they are opted in.

Each step backwards always contains some other bits that don't grab the headlines as much, but still cause a lot of damage.

[Ashartus]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

It is important to get this "funding gatekeeper" thing on people's minds before the poop really hits the fan regarding the blanket rezoning. The UCP won't want to miss capitalizing on a little bit of outrage.

"See what the FEDS and the CITY are doing to you? We'll save you from that."

And of course, they are going to make sure it extends into education, research, etc. while they're at it. They same way they took a fear of trans people among their base, and didn't just attack them, and now kids won't be able to get simple sex ed in school unless they are opted in.

Each step backwards always contains some other bits that don't grab the headlines as much, but still cause a lot of damage.

I think that is classic Danielle Smith. Most of her policies have an attention-grabbing piece, often a strawman/exageration that gets her base all riled up and even a lot of moderates thinking there's a problem that needs to be fixed (gender reassignment surgeries for kids, turning your community into an apartment block) and then all this insidious stuff behind it.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Its a constant cycle of the ucp doing things that they didnt run on and that solves no problem that needs fixing.

It solves the problem of party cronies potentially getting left out of projects, which is a huge problem in a province that is built on cronyism.