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Old 11-18-2017, 01:04 PM   #4281
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So now you're blaming Notley and the NDP for BC's electoral politics? My point was that the social license was lost long ago from inaction by the Alberta PC and federal Conservatives.

Trudeau and Notley have been banging the Transmountain drum since they were elected. What more would you have them do? Strong arm an approval for the project in the face of significant resistance in the lower mainland and BC generally? The Transmountain approval is now in the courts. Do you think it wise that Trudeau weigh in and politicize (and thus delegitimize) a court proceeding? Shouldn't you have taken stock of the abject failure of Kenney and his federal Conservative Party in getting approvals and their strategies?

Instead of hearing you moan, I want to hear something constructive. What's the counter-factual to Notley's strategy? What would Kenney do differently that would be more successful for new pipelines?

And finally, the hot takes that Notley is wasting her time working on GSA when she should be trying to promote the oil and gas is just so specious. Elected representatives and leaders of democracies have to work on multiple issues at once. They just don't get to work on your pet issue, and you don't get to criticize them if they veer off of it.



This is a good one. Tell us, enlightened one, how many ####s you give for the ROC?

Nice to see you've bought the whole woe-be-gotten, hard done by poor old Alberta narrative hook line and sinker. Yes poor old Alberta, that province, that even in the middle of a recession has, by far, the highest income levels of any other province. I mean, we're getting screwed!
It's pretty simple actually. Individuals in Alberta pay more into the equalization program through Federal income taxes than the ROC.

Canadian provinces like Quebec get a cheque from the Feds financed by Albertans and then in turn elect people like Dennis Codere who oppose our industry.

Having a position against pipelines is an acceptable position. But if you are going to have that position every Canadian outside AB who has gotten money from AB oil should write a cheque to the Alberta treasury. If not shut the hell up and get out of the way.

Understand now?
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Old 11-18-2017, 01:08 PM   #4282
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It's pretty simple actually. Individuals in Alberta pay more into the equalization program through Federal income taxes than the ROC.

Canadian provinces like Quebec get a cheque from the Feds financed by Albertans and then in turn elect people like Dennis Codere who oppose our industry.

Having a position against pipelines is an acceptable position. But if you are going to have that position every Canadian outside AB who has gotten money from AB oil should write a cheque to the Alberta treasury. If not shut the hell up and get out of the way.

Understand now?
Why didn't Harper and Kenney and co. change this? They had a majority for a long time.

Why would you support people who were so apathetic towards Alebrta's unfair position?
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Old 11-18-2017, 01:10 PM   #4283
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It's pretty simple actually. Individuals in Alberta pay more into the equalization program through Federal income taxes than the ROC.

Canadian provinces like Quebec get a cheque from the Feds financed by Albertans and then in turn elect people like Dennis Codere who oppose our industry.

Having a position against pipelines is an acceptable position. But if you are going to have that position every Canadian outside AB who has gotten money from AB oil should write a cheque to the Alberta treasury. If not shut the hell up and get out of the way.

Understand now?
And young people from the ROC come here to work, make lots of money, and end up paying into equalization. Quebec is not the only province that receives equalization, either.

It isn't that simple of an issue.

Nor is it the cause of Alberta's problems.
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Old 11-18-2017, 01:15 PM   #4284
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Why didn't Harper and Kenney and co. change this? They had a majority for a long time.

Why would you support people who were so apathetic towards Alebrta's unfair position?
Kenney wants to disrupt the regulatory environment for Oil and Gas investment and has threatened to turn off the taps, to the tune of hundreds of millions in losses, for energy products going to BC.

Why is this guy looked at as friendly to the oil and gas industry?
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Old 11-18-2017, 02:33 PM   #4285
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It's pretty simple actually. Individuals in Alberta pay more into the equalization program through Federal income taxes than the ROC.

Canadian provinces like Quebec get a cheque from the Feds financed by Albertans and then in turn elect people like Dennis Codere who oppose our industry.

Having a position against pipelines is an acceptable position. But if you are going to have that position every Canadian outside AB who has gotten money from AB oil should write a cheque to the Alberta treasury. If not shut the hell up and get out of the way.

Understand now?
Have you accounted for the fact that we only import young people from the ROC who have been educated in other provinces and parents are left to die in other provinces. What value is the cheap supply of labour worth to Albertas success.

How much was early subsidies like the rail road and military protection worth to even establish Alberta in the first place.

Yes the other provinces should be told to pound sand when they oppose pipelines but to link transfer payments to the right to oppose it is nonsense
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