07-24-2014, 02:05 PM
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Arizona execution lasts nearly two hours
http://globalnews.ca/news/1470617/ar...lmost-2-hours/
Ridiculous. What a barbaric way for a society to act. And yeah, I know this is rare and is the exception....I just don't care. The death penalty is a black mark on whichever country uses it.
I don't think it is a deterrent, studies show that right? So what's the point? It costs a ton of money, and it can clearly be inhumane.
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07-24-2014, 02:08 PM
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That'll learn him.
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07-24-2014, 02:09 PM
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And people look at public hangings on the other side of the world as barbaric while this goes on next door.
At least when you are hanged (hung?) you die almost instantly.
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07-24-2014, 02:10 PM
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bullet in the head is best for everybody, including the taxpayer
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07-24-2014, 02:10 PM
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At least he got a couple extra hours to think that maybe he shouldn't have shot his girlfriend and her father, one after begging for mercy and her life.
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07-24-2014, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Delgar
At least he got a couple extra hours to think that maybe he shouldn't have shot his girlfriend and her father, one after begging for mercy and her life.
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07-24-2014, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Arya Stark
And people look at public hangings on the other side of the world as barbaric while this goes on next door.
At least when you are hanged (hung?) you die almost instantly.
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Two things:
1 - hanging(s) can go wrong.
2 - can we agree both are barbaric? I am not sure there is a barbaric metric.
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07-24-2014, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Delgar
At least he got a couple extra hours to think that maybe he shouldn't have shot his girlfriend and her father, one after begging for mercy and her life.
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Do not confuse my dislike of the death penalty and sympathy for this man. He should be in jail for life, not strapped to a gurney struggling to die for two hours.
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07-24-2014, 02:13 PM
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07-24-2014, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan
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What is the? The botched execution or his murdering if his ex girlfriend and her father?
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07-24-2014, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by oilers_fan
I don't think it is a deterrent, studies show that right? So what's the point? It costs a ton of money, and it can clearly be inhumane.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oilers_fan
Do not confuse my dislike of the death penalty and sympathy for this man. He should be in jail for life, not strapped to a gurney struggling to die for two hours.
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So it costs a ton of money for the execution and it doesn't cost a ton of money to keep him in jail for life?
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07-24-2014, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Two things:
1 - hanging(s) can go wrong.
2 - can we agree both are barbaric? I am not sure there is a barbaric metric.
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Of course both are barbaric. Didn't think I needed to mention that. I am against all death penalties but I know if I was given a choice between a lethal injection that has went wrong a few times this year and being hanged I would definitely choose being hanged.
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07-24-2014, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MelBridgeman
What is the? The botched execution or his murdering if his ex girlfriend and her father?
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Both are barbaric. One act does not excuse the other.
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07-24-2014, 02:20 PM
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EU is culpable in this by trying to impose their values on the US by banning the export of the drug they used.
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07-24-2014, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MelBridgeman
What is the? The botched execution or his murdering if his ex girlfriend and her father?
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Society has to be held to a higher standard than the criminals it wants to punish.
There is also roughly a 1% chance that the guy executed (in general) is not guilty.
There is no place for the Death Penalty in a modern society.
It is more expensive than Life inprisonment
It is not a deterrent
It is can execute the innocent
It reduces the moral authority of a just society by putting us on the same level as the criminal
It can go wrong and result in what effectively is torture.
The only arguement for the death penalty that is valid is I want revenge and unfortuately given the negatives it doesn't hold up.
There is no logical reason to have the death penalty. There should be no debate.
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07-24-2014, 02:21 PM
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Clearly they're just trying to subsidize costs by being able to milk concession sales.
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07-24-2014, 02:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlLester
So it costs a ton of money for the execution and it doesn't cost a ton of money to keep him in jail for life?
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Pretty much.
it costs more money to execute someone than to give them life without parole.
It costs more than twice as much to house an inmate on deathrow than in gen pop and upwards of 4 times as much in trial costs.
Removing the dealth penalty in the state of colorado would save the state government 5 billion dollars in court related fees over 20 years.
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07-24-2014, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Locke
Clearly they're just trying to subsidize costs by being able to milk concession sales.
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I feel like a pretty terrible person for laughing at this.
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07-24-2014, 02:25 PM
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Clearly they're just trying to subsidize costs by being able to milk concession sales.
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Damn it I am definitely going to hell, I least you will be here to make me laugh.
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07-24-2014, 02:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Pretty much.
it costs more money to execute someone than to give them life without parole.
It costs more than twice as much to house an inmate on deathrow than in gen pop and upwards of 4 times as much in trial costs.
Removing the dealth penalty in the state of colorado would save the state government 5 billion dollars in court related fees over 20 years.
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