Frozen Car problems

[#22]

^^^

Was just going to say check the dipstick. This will give you a better idea what’s going on deeper down.

[Erick Estrada]

OP needs to follow up on this one and let us know what was diagnosed as you don't see this one every day.

[Fuzz]

It doesn't take very long for an engine to warm up the oil to useable viscosity, if it did your engine would not last long. The biggest issue, other than the engine and window fog is transmission oil, as it doesn't warm up from the engine's bang bangs. But it isn't going to warm up much sitting still, either. So you want to take it easy in the first few minutes of driving so that transmission fluid moves around a bit and it will generate it's own warmth.

[CaptainCrunch]

If you use synthetic oil, you don't really need to do much in the term of warmup, especially with a fuel injected engine. You do want to warm it up enough to get the oil circulating which is like a minute.



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[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Typically with an overfilled crankcase you end up with froth and bubbling which leads to poor oil distribution and oil starvation but this engine looks past overfilled as it appears the entire block is full up to the valve-train which is uncharted territory as there could be several types of failure including spun bearings, bent connecting rods, blown seals, etc.

I'm still dubious about it being frozen rock hard and full to the brim. I'd guess it is just the metal baffle below the filler hole.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It doesn't take very long for an engine to warm up the oil to useable viscosity, if it did your engine would not last long. The biggest issue, other than the engine and window fog is transmission oil, as it doesn't warm up from the engine's bang bangs. But it isn't going to warm up much sitting still, either. So you want to take it easy in the first few minutes of driving so that transmission fluid moves around a bit and it will generate it's own warmth.

Yeah, generally a minute or two is sufficient but don't push the engine hard until the temp starts coming up. Some vehicles (my truck anyway) limits the transmission to lower gears initially to force the temperature up sooner.

[Rjcsjc62]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

OP needs to follow up on this one and let us know what was diagnosed as you don't see this one every day.

I wish i had better details, i asked her today and she says its bad.

A pipe has burst and leaked into the engine block, and cracked it. The engine would have to be replaced, but for her not an option. Now that its thawed, it cant hold anything.

The garage was going to make her an offer, she doesnt want to fix it. But somebody there wants to make a project out of it.

I had more questions for her, but she had no answers. Thats the whole story, which i now wont satisfy everyone curiousity, including mine.

[burn_this_city]

Sounds like blown head gasket hydrolocked a cylinder and toasted the engine block. One thing that doesn't make sense, if the car had proper coolant in it why did it freeze solid inside.

[81MC]

Well, I guess that’s a good lesson in not pure water in place of antifreeze.
Also a bit of an indictment on the shop. There is no reason a customer should be faced with such a repair and really not have an understanding of what’s happened.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Rjcsjc62

I wish i had better details, i asked her today and she says its bad.

A pipe has burst and leaked into the engine block, and cracked it. The engine would have to be replaced, but for her not an option. Now that its thawed, it cant hold anything.

The garage was going to make her an offer, she doesnt want to fix it. But somebody there wants to make a project out of it.

I had more questions for her, but she had no answers. Thats the whole story, which i now wont satisfy everyone curiousity, including mine.

Hoping its not a car that she's still making payments on.

[Northendzone]

A pipe burst? What kind of pipe?

[stang]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

A pipe burst? What kind of pipe?

Exactly no pipe bursting is putting coolant in the engine. On the ground maybe

[CaptainCrunch]

maybe her headlight ballasts were out of balance?

[GGG]

My read is that the coolent hose was found to be burst along with the engine block being cracked.

Whoever last put coolent in her car or topped up coolent didn’t mix it right and it sitting at -30 overnight allows it to freeze. If she had any recent work done I would start there.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by stang

Exactly no pipe bursting is putting coolant in the engine. On the ground maybe

Ford has at least one engine where if the water pump fails coolant goes into the crankcase because the pump is inside the timing chain cover.

[Rjcsjc62]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

A pipe burst? What kind of pipe?

I know. I asked the same thing. She said a "PVC pipe?" which doesn't make sense, so my guess is that she stopped listening after she heard "your engine needs to be replaced".

[Rjcsjc62]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Hoping its not a car that she's still making payments on.

No, I believe she owned it. But she cant afford to have this work done.

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by Rjcsjc62

I know. I asked the same thing. She said a "PVC pipe?" which doesn't make sense, so my guess is that she stopped listening after she heard "your engine needs to be replaced".

I imagine it was PCV and something in that system broke like the valve or the line.

[Northendzone]

out of curiousity it would have been nice to hear the details on what happened, but it would seem that ain't happening.

too bad the o/p friend lost her car

[puckedoff]

Can we crowdfund for CP to buy the car so we can get to the bottom of this mystery?