Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Back Burner: The Calgary Wranglers and Flames Prospects Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-11-2014, 01:44 PM   #1
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default Rafikov may come to the CHL next year

http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?...id=rss-vickers

Quote:
Rafikov, who was also drafted in the third round, 71st overall into the Kontinental Hockey League by Lokomotiv Yaroslavl in 2012, is hoping to take a North American approach to chasing his NHL dream.

It will start by attending the Flames’ development camp next summer.

It extends to potentially playing in the Canadian Hockey League next fall, he said.

“I had a talk in my first game (of the Subway Super Series) with (Flames scouting director) Todd Woodcroft and they expect me next season and have invited me to the camp,” said Rafikov, the 22nd Russian ever drafted by the Flames. “I’m very happy and would be happy to come over to play junior.”

Admittedly, it would be a step up from Loko Yaroslavl, his current MHL team.

Rafikov noted that, based on the level of competition in the Super Series, it would be the next step for his development, too.

“The level here is slightly higher than the MHL from my standpoint,” he said. “I’m pretty tired over the last games. Canadian players are more physical and quite skilled which is a little bit different from the same level in Russia.”
Look forward to seeing him this summer at development camp
sureLoss is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 19 Users Say Thank You to sureLoss For This Useful Post:
Old 02-11-2014, 01:49 PM   #2
Locke
Franchise Player
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

Someone has to photoshop him wearing the hat.



__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!

This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.

If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a Fire Exit. - Mitch Hedberg
Locke is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Locke For This Useful Post:
Old 02-11-2014, 01:54 PM   #3
undercoverbrother
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
Exp:
Default

Serious question.

Are they any Russians involved in out alumni?
undercoverbrother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 01:56 PM   #4
Alberta_Beef
Franchise Player
 
Alberta_Beef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss View Post
http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?...id=rss-vickers
Quote:
Rafikov, who was also drafted in the third round, 71st overall into the Kontinental Hockey League by Lokomotiv Yaroslavl in 2012, is hoping to take a North American approach to chasing his NHL dream.

It will start by attending the Flames’ development camp next summer.

It extends to potentially playing in the Canadian Hockey League next fall, he said.

“I had a talk in my first game (of the Subway Super Series) with (Flames scouting director) Todd Woodcroft and they expect me next season and have invited me to the camp,” said Rafikov, the 22nd Russian ever drafted by the Flames. “I’m very happy and would be happy to come over to play junior.”

Admittedly, it would be a step up from Loko Yaroslavl, his current MHL team.

Rafikov noted that, based on the level of competition in the Super Series, it would be the next step for his development, too.

“The level here is slightly higher than the MHL from my standpoint,” he said. “I’m pretty tired over the last games. Canadian players are more physical and quite skilled which is a little bit different from the same level in Russia.”

Look forward to seeing him this summer at development camp
does this mean Tod Button has been fired?
Alberta_Beef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 01:57 PM   #5
JonDuke
Franchise Player
 
JonDuke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke View Post
Someone has to photoshop him wearing the hat
Comme ca?



Or this?


Last edited by JonDuke; 02-11-2014 at 02:01 PM.
JonDuke is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to JonDuke For This Useful Post:
Old 02-11-2014, 01:59 PM   #6
getbak
Franchise Player
 
getbak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef View Post
does this mean Tod Button has been fired?
It looks like Scouting Director is a different position from Director of Amateur Scouting: http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=679765

Quote:
“John Weisbrod and I have been discussing for some time now a way to bridge our European and North American scouting operations, and we are confident Todd Woodcroft is the perfect person to help us build that bridge by increasing our cross-over coverage in Europe and North America, while also being available to us for special assignment work,” said Feaster. “Todd’s extensive experience in Europe, and particularly Russia, will be invaluable for us as we continue to place even greater emphasis on drafting and developing our own players.”
Hard to tell where they fall on the hierarchy. It sounds like this role falls somewhere in between Amateur and Pro scouting. Once players are drafted, Button doesn't care about them any more.
__________________
Turn up the good, turn down the suck!

Last edited by getbak; 02-11-2014 at 02:01 PM.
getbak is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to getbak For This Useful Post:
Old 02-11-2014, 01:59 PM   #7
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother View Post
Serious question.

Are they any Russians involved in out alumni?
Igor Kravchuk I think. Conroy contacted him doing research on Nichushkin and he apparently suggested Rafikov to them.
sureLoss is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to sureLoss For This Useful Post:
Old 02-11-2014, 02:00 PM   #8
Alberta_Beef
Franchise Player
 
Alberta_Beef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak View Post
Apparently, Scouting Director is a different position from Director of Amateur Scouting: http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=679765
interesting, first I have heard of this Woodcroft fellow
Alberta_Beef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 02:02 PM   #9
Travis Munroe
Realtor®
 
Travis Munroe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Have to like the kids attitude vs what we often see from Russian players
__________________

OFFICIAL CP REALTOR & PROPERTY MANAGER
Travis Munroe | Century 21 Elevate | 403.971.4300

Residential Buying & Selling
info@tmunroe.com
www.tmunroe.com

Property Management
travis@mpmCalgary.com
www.mpmCalgary.com
Travis Munroe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 02:08 PM   #10
FlamesAddiction
Franchise Player
 
FlamesAddiction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Realtor 1 View Post
Have to like the kids attitude vs what we often see from Russian players
I was a little apprehensive when we first drafted him. He mentioned that he was surprised that he was drafted and it didn't sound like the NHL was his long term plan at the time. Now it sounds like he is all in and has even improved his English quite a bit.

It will be nice to see what he can do.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
FlamesAddiction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 02:12 PM   #11
Fire
Franchise Player
 
Fire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

I had doubts he ever cared about playing in the NHL. Good to see that he wants to come over.
__________________

Fire is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Fire For This Useful Post:
Old 02-11-2014, 02:43 PM   #12
Alberta_Beef
Franchise Player
 
Alberta_Beef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire View Post
I had doubts he ever cared about playing in the NHL. Good to see that he wants to come over.
yeah so did I when he was drafted his comments seemed to have an air of "I don't give a fata"
Alberta_Beef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 02:49 PM   #13
J epworth
Franchise Player
 
J epworth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

Do you know if any CHL teams have his rights? If none do, does he get to play for whoever wants him?
J epworth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 02:57 PM   #14
undercoverbrother
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by J epworth kendal View Post
Do you know if any CHL teams have his rights? If none do, does he get to play for whoever wants him?
If so, put him with the Hitmen, he can be around the big boys.
undercoverbrother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 02:59 PM   #15
J epworth
Franchise Player
 
J epworth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default Rafikov may come to the CHL next year

Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother View Post
If so, put him with the Hitmen, he can be around the big boys.

Ya that's kind of where I was going with my question, if the Flames can do it, would probably be best if he could play with the Hitmen.
J epworth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 03:05 PM   #16
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default

As far as I can tell no one in the CHL holds his rights, however there is an import draft in June where a team might pick him up.
sureLoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 03:07 PM   #17
Drury18
Franchise Player
 
Drury18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother View Post
If so, put him with the Hitmen, he can be around the big boys.
The Hitmen will not have an open import roster space for him. They currently have Padakin and Fazeleev and I don't see either being moved.

I believe Eetu Selanne may also take up an import spot on the Hitmen roster if he joins them for the next season and will probably have priority.
Drury18 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Drury18 For This Useful Post:
Old 02-11-2014, 03:14 PM   #18
J epworth
Franchise Player
 
J epworth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drury18 View Post
The Hitmen will not have an open import roster space for him. They currently have Padakin and Fazeleev and I don't see either being moved.

I believe Eetu Selanne may also take up an import spot on the Hitmen roster if he joins them for the next season and will probably have priority.
Would Selanne be an import? He's dual citizen, USA and Finland, born in California, so he should be a regular player for WHL.

Anyways, snooping around the rules for the WHL I found you need to be drafted through the import draft to play in the WHL, so it would be whoever picks him first then I guess.
Quote:
16. How many Europeans can play in the WHL?
Each WHL team is allowed up to a maximum of two non-North American players. These import players must be drafted through the Canadian Hockey League Import draft held during the summer in order to play in the WHL.
J epworth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 03:14 PM   #19
getbak
Franchise Player
 
getbak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

It looks like he has not been chosen in a previous CHL Import Draft: http://www.chl.ca/draft/chl

If he plans to play in the CHL, he would have to sign a player agreement, then be drafted.

If you're looking for a comparable, he's basically in the same situation that Dmitry Sinitsyn was in last year. He was drafted by Dallas in the seventh round in 2012, and played last season in the NCAA. He was picked 16th by Regina in last year's import draft and has been playing with the Pats this season.
__________________
Turn up the good, turn down the suck!
getbak is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2014, 03:19 PM   #20
dammage79
Franchise Player
 
dammage79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

As he is only 18 at this point he can have two more years of development in the CHL right? And has another shot at the WJC next as well if his birthdate does not conflict.
__________________
"Everybody's so desperate to look smart that nobody is having fun anymore" -Jackie Redmond
dammage79 is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to dammage79 For This Useful Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:24 AM.

Calgary Flames
2023-24




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021