Time for a call-up from the Wranglers!

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If Markstrom is still at an .880 level at Christmas, they may as well run three goaltenders. They won't — we saw how it went last time — but at a certain point complacency isn't an option anymore for a team with these aspirations.

I don't see any complacency at all-Markstrom knows he has to be better, and he's battling hard. You can see on the faces of all the coaches and players that they are working hard to turn things around. They won't give up on Marky-like I said, he's looking better already. Once the team in front of him gets it together, he'll be all the better as well.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If Markstrom is still at an .880 level at Christmas, they may as well run three goaltenders. They won't — we saw how it went last time — but at a certain point complacency isn't an option anymore for a team with these aspirations.

If it ever got to that (it won't) the Flames would make a trade before settling on a Vladar/Wolf duo. With $6.75 m invested in goaltending already, there is no way they are running with three.

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[dino7c]

The AHL is also not the NHL

Good on Wolf so far but lets not pretend he could just jump in the NHL and put up a .920% as a starter because he has done so in the AHL

Vladar and Markstrom are in the .800s so far behind this team

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

If it ever got to that (it won't) the Flames would make a trade before settling on a Vladar/Wolf duo. With $6.75 m invested in goaltending already, there is no way they are running with three.

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Oh I certainly don't think they'd go with a Vladar/Wolf duo. No chance of that.

[dino7c]

There is no chance Wolf is in the NHL this season, that's the point

unless injury

[TheScorpion]

It'd certainly be very unlikely. Markstrom would have to be doing terribly. Like catastrophic.

[Mindtravellee]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

It'd certainly be very unlikely. Markstrom would have to be doing terribly. Like catastrophic.

Interesting situation if Wolf gets called up. You'd think Chechelev will become the no.1 at the wranglers.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If Markstrom is still at an .880 level at Christmas, they may as well run three goaltenders. They won't — we saw how it went last time — but at a certain point complacency isn't an option anymore for a team with these aspirations.

Not sure what you mean by complacency here, but there is no way they will run with 3 goalies. All that does is insure that NONE of them get enough work to get rolling. That would be the worst decision the Flames could make.

If they think their goaltending is so bad that they need to make changes, they will run with VLadar. And if that fails, then they would waive or trade Vladar, to bring up Wolf. But there is virtually no chance of this happening. And at that point, the season would be lost anyway.

The only way Wolf sees action this year is if there is an injury. And even then, he would ride the pine. He might get a gift-start later in the season, but he isn't going to become part of the goaltending situation this year.

[saillias]

Is there anyone here watching the Wranglers regularly? You would think with them being in Calgary there would be more of an awareness about who's NHL ready. Even when the AHL team has been elsewhere like Adirondack, Abbotsford, Stockton there's been a guy who's providing scouting reports.

[TheScorpion]

I've been at every home game. The NHL-ready forwards are Phillips, Zary, and Pelletier. Ben Jones is a Glenn Gawdin-type plug-in guy. Planning on doing up a little article on this exact topic this week.

[Cain]

I'd hope we see some games this season from these guys...especially Philips as I presume he is gone after this season and no blaming him really.


We usually are hopeful to have some guys that are doing passably well, but if we have 3 guys that are among the very best of the league it would be good to see what they are capable of in the NHL.

[Naitix]

I have probably watched 70% of Wranglers games and I do agree with Scorp, those are the only ones who are NHL ready. I would call up Phillips if we need someone in the Top 6 to play with Huberdeau, Kadri, Lindholm etc, but I would call up Pelletier if we need a solid winger to play with Backs on the third line. I can see Zary playing on the third line but also being a contributor in the top 6 but I really want him to have more time in the AHL, I think it would benefit him and the Flames more in the long run. If Pelletier and Phillips do not work out, then call up Zary.

I also think that Schwindt is looking better as the season progresses, he has some very good passing ability and got a good shot, I do not think he is ready to be a contributor at NHL level but I can see him competing for a spot next year.

[Bingo]

Unless Ruzicka slips (he had a rough one last night) you'd think they'd go the Jones route as they need a fourth line fill in more than a top nine as it stands.

[FanIn80]

I think "NHL ready" is a bit of a stretch when their only competition has been against AHLers. "NHL tryout ready" is a better term. "Ready for another chance to show they can play in the NHL for the Calgary Flames" is an even better one. We're not Arizona or Edmonton.

[TheScorpion]

That's a weird semantic line to draw. I think all of those functionally mean the same thing. Otherwise, no prospects without NHL experience could ever be considered NHL-ready (but some of them very much are).

[Mindtravellee]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I think "NHL ready" is a bit of a stretch when their only competition has been against AHLers. "NHL tryout ready" is a better term. "Ready for another chance to show they can play in the NHL for the Calgary Flames" is an even better one. We're not Arizona or Edmonton.

Of the 3 mentioned, 2 haven't played a game, 1 has played 1 game. I don't know where you pulled another from.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Mindtravellee

Of the 3 mentioned, 2 haven't played a game, 1 has played 1 game. I don't know where you pulled another from.

In terms of chances to show they can play in the NHL, training camp would be the precursor that allows me to use the word "another."

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

That's a weird semantic line to draw. I think all of those functionally mean the same thing. Otherwise, no prospects without NHL experience could ever be considered NHL-ready (but some of them very much are).

"NHL ready" infers they're ready to play in the NHL... like, there are no questions and nothing to prove. They had an excellent camp and during their chances (in preseason) to play against other NHLers, they showed they could handle the uptick in opposition skill. These players would be on the team if it weren't for either a cap or roster related reason.

I'm just saying neither of of these guys meet that criteria for me, which is what I mean by ready for another chance vs NHL ready.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

"NHL ready" infers they're ready to play in the NHL... like, there are no questions and nothing to prove. They had an excellent camp and during their chances (in preseason) to play against other NHLers, they showed they could handle the uptick in opposition skill. These players would be on the team if it weren't for either a cap or roster related reason.

I'm just saying neither of of these guys meet that criteria for me, which is what I mean by ready for another chance vs NHL ready.

Quite frankly I think anyone with over 82 games played as an AHL pro is NHL-ready, and in a league where teams actual employ plugs like Rooney for reasons as arbitrary as "your fourth lines should be muckers, not effective hockey players", there is no competency limitation. The question as always comes down to opportunity and fit. The best fourth line Treliving has ever put together was Mangiapane - Ryan - Hathaway so I see no reason to use the aformentioned arbitrary logic to determine who is NHL ready.

Are there players on the Wranglers who should be on the Flames' Top 12?

Yes.

No Doubt About It.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

"NHL ready" infers they're ready to play in the NHL... like, there are no questions and nothing to prove.

Agreed.

They had an excellent camp and during their chances (in preseason) to play against other NHLers, they showed they could handle the uptick in opposition skill. These players would be on the team if it weren't for either a cap or roster related reason.

Why is this a criterion in the definition of "NHL ready" when players more often make the jump directly from the AHL after having been cut from training camp?

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