Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by belsarius

I really don't understand how 338 works. Last poll on Dec 3rd had the UCP up 2, but the NDP had a 52% chance of the most seats. This poll has the NDP up 8 but the UCP now has a 66% chance for the most seats. Even looking at trends, the NDP have been leading 6 of the 10 most recent polls.

The actual results of the poll are NDP - 38%, UCP - 32%, ACP 3% and 25% undecided.

They also had Calgary tied which basically means NDP gains are coming from Edmonton or rural seats where additional NDP votes mean nothing.

I'm assuming they think the undecided are similar to the undecided posters here. People who vote Conservative all the time but are annoyed by them now, but will likely end up voting for them anyways.

Polls also have a tough time when there is a possible shift in large sections of the population as they have to base their samples on past results. This is what happens in the US with like Florida where a big chunk of hispanic population has shifted Republican but the polls haven't their assumptions to fully catch on to this. If a big chunk of Calgary voters are going to shift - its harder to pick that up in a small sample.

[Manhattanboy]

Ok I might have misheard but is there a UCP radio ad on the FAN equating driving a drunk friend home from a party after you've had a few (ie drinking and driving) with voting for the NDP, ie good intentions but bad judgment?

Who comes up with this garbage?

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Ok I might have misheard but is there a UCP radio ad on the FAN equating driving a drunk friend home from a party after you've had a few (ie drinking and driving) with voting for the NDP, ie good intentions but bad judgment?

Who comes up with this garbage?

The same people who thought comparing cultural genocide to how Ottawa treats Alberta was a good idea.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Ok I might have misheard but is there a UCP radio ad on the FAN equating driving a drunk friend home from a party after you've had a few (ie drinking and driving) with voting for the NDP, ie good intentions but bad judgment?

Who comes up with this garbage?

So in this scenario..the UCP are blackout drunk, while the NDP had a couple light beers?

[TheIronMaiden]

If you're going to campaign now, just call an election. 4 months is too long to wait through all this BS.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by belsarius

The same people who thought comparing cultural genocide to how Ottawa treats Alberta was a good idea.

And that compare selfish people living with the results of their choices with the injustice wrought on minorities through history. We aren't dealing with serious people here.

[RedHot25]

Affordability challenges? Pfft.
Health care? Yeah, right.
Unemployment? Slackers.
Diversification? Diverse what?

Move over such inconsequential topics, do we have something ever serious to introduce and discuss now...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603833520962818048

[Locke]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

Affordability challenges? Pfft.
Health care? Yeah, right.
Unemployment? Slackers.
Diversification? Diverse what?

Move over such inconsequential topics, do we have something ever serious to introduce and discuss now...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603833520962818048

This is dumb as balls.

[wwkayaker]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

Affordability challenges? Pfft.
Health care? Yeah, right.
Unemployment? Slackers.
Diversification? Diverse what?

Move over such inconsequential topics, do we have something ever serious to introduce and discuss now...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603833520962818048

“Giddy up!” Provincial motto

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by ooogabooga

In all seriousness, how in the hell is it this close? I’m not trying to start a fight here but I can’t think of anything that has gotten better for me, and my family since the UCP were elected. Yes, I know that a lot of inflation was and is out of their control; but policy wise, the only one I can think of that has a slight benefit to our family is scrapping the second test for your class 5. Now my wife doesn’t have to do another test, (not that she ever was going to do the second test to get off of the GDL that she’s been on for 12 years now).

The UCP has a formula. Govern for 3 1/2 years, make a complete hash of it, switch leaders, blame the last one, start with a ‘clean slate’…

[RedHot25]

Uh.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603964729332207616

[RedHot25]

So, hard to get help at a hospital, and my budget is stretched to the extreme, but....rodeo and an advocate for the unvaccinated will settle all that? Cool cool.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

Affordability challenges? Pfft.
Health care? Yeah, right.
Unemployment? Slackers.
Diversification? Diverse what?

Move over such inconsequential topics, do we have something ever serious to introduce and discuss now...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603833520962818048

Put your cowboy hat on, not backwards, and get to work.

I jest.

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by edslunch

The UCP has a formula. Govern for 3 1/2 years, make a complete hash of it, switch leaders, blame the last one, start with a ‘clean slate’…

Theres a Charlie Brown - Lucy - football image just waiting to be labeled somewhere

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

Uh.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603964729332207616

Man I find that vile. Our tax dollars going to "defend" the selfish people who couldn't do the bare minimum to protect society, while those with health issues can't get medical care. Some people think this is just fine. I think it's nauseating.

[Ozy_Flame]

Petition to the Leg to rename this role to Minister of Anti-Vaccination Tripe and Other Jingoistic Numbskullery.

If we can't get rid of the taxpayer waste, we can at least rename it more accurately.

[RedHot25]

No special favours here...!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603979184766070784

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603969670583037954

[Geraldsh]

Every ucp cabinet member should have to spend some time as a rodeo clown to earn their title.

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Man I find that vile. Our tax dollars going to "defend" the selfish people who couldn't do the bare minimum to protect society, while those with health issues can't get medical care. Some people think this is just fine. I think it's nauseating.

The whole planet is heading down dark roads it seems...PLUS the Flames are garbage. What's next?

[kn]

Living at this point in time brings me to recall this Carl Sagan quote which he wrote ten months before he died in 1996. He was writing about 2021. It's about America but I think it aptly applies to us as well. Unfortunately, we are living his fear.

Originally Posted by Carl Sagan

I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance

The mass ignorance prevalent in today's society makes me fear for our future.