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Old 10-14-2018, 01:44 PM   #41
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This is what I'd like to see them try.

13 - 23 - 19
93 - 28 - 18
29 - 11 - 27
10 - 77 - 21
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Old 10-14-2018, 01:47 PM   #42
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Ferland wasn't going to sign in Calgary.
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Old 10-14-2018, 01:50 PM   #43
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That's common knowledge. They don't have cap space for him for what he deserved, which is probably in the $4M AAV range.
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Old 10-14-2018, 01:59 PM   #44
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That's common knowledge. They don't have cap space for him for what he deserved, which is probably in the $4M AAV range.
You mean less salary than the older Neal makes? uhhh
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Tkachuk isn’t fast.

I’d add a 4th category “smart”.

So basically they ideally need to play with a good RH hockey player.
I'm saying that in my head that for 1RW: Lindholm > Bennett > Neal

So, even if say Bennett slots into 2-RW...

Johnny-Monahan-Lindholm
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:19 PM   #46
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At the time of the deal Flames had no idea what it would cost to sign the RFAs.

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Ferland wasn't going to sign in Calgary.

Fox wasn't going to sign anywhere.

The only known commodity at the time of the trade was the best player in the deal going to Carolina for three years at a decent price. That's not fleecing in my view.
I bet Treliving had a pretty good idea what he was going to be able to get both signed for when he made the move. He has a pretty good handle on RFA negotiations.
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I bet Treliving had a pretty good idea what he was going to be able to get both signed for when he made the move. He has a pretty good handle on RFA negotiations.
We agree. Hamilton was the only known commodity.
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We agree. Hamilton was the only known commodity.
To us. We have no idea what insight management had into their contract scenarios, but it's almost certainly much more detailed than any of us.
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:33 PM   #49
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That's common knowledge. They don't have cap space for him for what he deserved, which is probably in the $4M AAV range.
Is it? The Flames would have had no problem fitting him in. The problem was they likely didn’t think he’d be the right solution for this club at the price point he’d command. He was moved because it was believed he could be replaced with better and could generate more for us via trade than he’d be worth signing long term. He wasn’t moved due to a lack of cap or desire to sign, or at the very least those things if true are far from common knowledge, in fact they are the exact opposite of common knowledge.
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I want to see Jankowski at #1RW at some point.
Jay? Is that you?
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Old 10-14-2018, 04:06 PM   #51
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Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Bennett-Backlund-Neal
Tkachuk-Jankowski-Czarnik
Dube-Ryan-Frolik

Can swap Dube and Jankowski based on form.
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Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Bennett-Backlund-Neal
Tkachuk-Jankowski-Czarnik
Dube-Ryan-Frolik

Can swap Dube and Jankowski based on form.
Rotate your 4th line, Frolik on LW because he is a L shot, then Dube and Ryan can split draws depending on which side of the ice the face-off is on.
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