American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by photon

Good to see Republicans are taking political violence seriou... oh..

https://twitter.com/user/status/1586899639831171072

Many sides

[photon]

We used to think this stuff was the fringe, but I guess we're finding out that all Republican politicians believe the nonsense that flies around, it's just they all used to feel like they had to keep a respectable public persona. Post Trump they can let it all hang out now.

From the guy who is likely to be the next head of the Homeland Security Committee

https://twitter.com/user/status/1586839478446047232

[Dion]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1587457434079170564

[Dion]

Wow!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1586833202764812292

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1587625207321305088

[photon]

So you're saying that most Republicans have no idea what the 2nd quarter of the 21st century means because they can't maths?

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Dion

Wow!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1586833202764812292

American church scenes like this always kind of amaze me.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1587625207321305088

Oh hey everyone Yoho wants attention

Everyone look at Yoho

[activeStick]

Ohhhh boy. 538 now is projecting the GOP with a 51-49 advantage in the Senate.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Dion

https://twitter.com/user/status/1587457434079170564

Dems are gross and meddled in primaries in an effort to beat what they perceived to be an easier candidate, and now it's blowing up in their face and
the average american is forced to live with the consequences.




https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...rats-rcna38084

Trump-backed Kari Lake gets a hand from an unlikely source in Arizona: Democrats


TUCSON, Ariz. — Kari Lake watched her lead narrow in the polls and big players in Arizona’s Republican establishment coalesce around her top rival weeks before the state’s Aug. 2 primary for governor.

So Democrats stepped in.

The state party, in an email blast this week, thanked her opponent, Karrin Taylor Robson, for past donations she made to Democratic candidates. The move was quickly interpreted as another example of Democrats’ meddling in midterm election primaries to help draw the general election opponent believed to offer the easier matchup in November — in this case Lake, an election denier endorsed by former President Donald Trump.

[Fuzz]

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I dunno, "the average American" could choose not to vote for "an election denier endorsed by former President Donald Trump." I don't see how you blame this on the Democrats, as if the Republicans aren't the ones that are the actual problem. No one is forcing Republican voters to actually vote for this disaster. Yet they do.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Dems are gross and meddled in primaries ...

They tore a page from the Republican playbook that has traditionally worked like clockwork in making Democrat candidates unelectable by their own. Unfortunately, Republicans and conservatives have no sense of values or character and will instead vote for anyone on their team, regardless of what a reprehensible piece of #### they are. That's the problem here. Democrats did exactly what Republicans have done for years but Republicans said they're okay with insane. Put up the most fringe racist bat#### crazy individuals and Republicans will still vote for them as long as there is an R by their name on the ballot and an elephant on their sign. Both parties are garbage, but these new Republicans and conservatives are the lowest scum you can scrape from the barrel, and they still garner support. It is sad and pathetic.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

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I dunno, "the average American" could choose not to vote for "an election denier endorsed by former President Donald Trump." I don't see how you blame this on the Democrats, as if the Republicans aren't the ones that are the actual problem. No one is forcing Republican voters to actually vote for this disaster. Yet they do.

Democrats also should have understood the reality; people (particularly Republican voters) often either vote blindly for a party without looking into a specific candidate too much, or they'll just vote against a party in power if they don't like what's going on. If you advocate for extremists to be your opponent in contested districts while understanding how Republicans tend to vote, then you have to accept the very real possibility that you'll have ended up helping them win an election.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Democrats also should have understood the reality; people (particularly Republican voters) often either vote blindly for a party without looking into a specific candidate too much, or they'll just vote against a party in power if they don't like what's going on. If you advocate for extremists to be your opponent in contested districts while understanding how Republicans tend to vote, then you have to accept the very real possibility that you'll have ended up helping them win an election.

You'd think Democrats would have learned from essentially doing the same thing with Trump in 2016.

[opendoor]

You'd think, but Democratic leadership has demonstrated an uncanny ability to completely misunderstand the average voter.

To be fair to them, the President's party losing the House and Senate in a mid-term election is pretty much par for the course. But knowing that, they should have probably not spent money trying to get the worst candidates into the general election. Not to mention, positioning MAGA candidates as an existential threat to American democracy while simultaneously helping them win primaries creates a pretty hollow argument.

[photon]

Maybe they'll get lucky and get some kind of rebound effect, a bunch of independents run away and more Dems turn out after seeing a few years of those people in leadership.

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[Wastedyouth]

There is a SHOCKING amount of QANON people winning their primaries and polling to win their seats.

What. ####ing. Timeline. IS. This.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

There is a SHOCKING amount of QANON people winning their primaries and polling to win their seats.

What. ####ing. Timeline. IS. This.

It's the great reset [to 1890's].

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Dems are gross

Thank you for posting the entire Republican platform. Now I feel prepared for the debates.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by opendoor

You'd think, but Democratic leadership has demonstrated an uncanny ability to completely misunderstand the average voter.

I don't think it's not understanding voters, I think it's placing too much faith in voters to do the right thing and follow their values and character. You would think they would learn and be less trusting of people, but they don't. They still hold out hope that people will stand erect and use the very brain inside their craniums. Bad decision based on the intelligence level of the average American and just how negatively impacted they are by social media.

To be fair to them, the President's party losing the House and Senate in a mid-term election is pretty much par for the course. But knowing that, they should have probably not spent money trying to get the worst candidates into the general election. Not to mention, positioning MAGA candidates as an existential threat to American democracy while simultaneously helping them win primaries creates a pretty hollow argument.

It gives validation to the extreme voices is what it does. You have invited them to the table and you have encouraged them to spew their hateful rhetoric to a segment of the population that is open to authoritarianism. It is a bad strategy, but one Republicans have used to push voters away from candidates on the left. Being branded as a socialist is a death sentence to most politicians in the United States. While it may be abhorrent to a lot of people, being branded a white supremacist Christian nationalist extremist is a badge of honor on the right and makes them that much more endearing to the Trump set.