Driving a slow car fast (e.g. Abarth) VS Driving a fast car slow
Okay, last week I took a wicked little car on a test drive. I've always preferred pure horsepower over handling (it can be very expensive if you want both). For example, my daily driver is an AWD 340 HP 300C and my fun car is a Mustang GT. Neither one of those cars is known for being very nimble, but they can accelerate like mad.
Anyway, I test drove a Fiat 500 Abarth. The base Fiat 500 has 100 horsepower or something, there is a Turbo with 130 horsepower, then there is the Abarth with 160 horsepower. 0-60 is nothing to write home about at 6.7 seconds, but peppy for sure. I think this is one of those cars that the 0-60 doesn't do it justice, though.
It's a blast to drive this thing. Corners are fun, the sound is cool (the exhaust snaps, crackles and occasionally backfires), the interior is fun and roomy enough for a 6'3" dude like me. It's only available in stick, which is awesome. I think you can get into one for less than $30K, although I'd only buy one used in a few years for ~$10K.
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In a way, I think it'd be more fun driving this around town in a relatively legal fashion versus driving a super car around town using only about 15% of its potential. What do you guys think of this thing? Any other fun little cars like this that you'd probably get more out of than something that is technically better on paper?
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I drive a car to get from one place to another, in a reasonably reliable and affordable fashion. In that respect, this makes a lot more sense to me than a 'super car', whatever that means.
However, I can think of a dozen or so cars off the top of my head that are far better at that, compared to this car.
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At first glance I would lump people that drive them with the same group that drives Mini Coopers, Smart Cars and others of the sort. Not to offend anyone who drives any of those but there seems to be certain traits and similarities to those that do.
At first glance I would lump people that drive them with the same group that drives Mini Coopers, Smart Cars and others of the sort. Not to offend anyone who drives any of those but there seems to be certain traits and similarities to those that do.
Comparing Mini drivers to Smart drivers? Ironhorse is going to murder you in your sleep
One of those is performance oriented, one is the furthest from it.
To answer the question, I think it's personal preference. I would love both handling and power, but especially with the other car you have, you could have one more powerful touring car, and one more fun, throw-it-around go-kart car. That seems like a pretty good combo.
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I generally prefer handling and agility to the straight line rockets that are pigs in the twistys.
Years ago I had a 924s, which on paper was pretty close to the Fiat (0-60 around 7 sec), but it certainly had enough pep and could lose a lot of other cars on the road at the time once I got into the corners. That thing was super fun.
That being said, something that can handle the corners AND throw you back in your seat is pretty fun too...
Looks wise, I think the Fiats are pretty cool for a small car. My ex had one for a rental car in Victoria a few years ago and she had a blast in it.
One of my favorite cars I have owned was my 03 Mazda P5. They really do know how to translate zoom zoom into fun handling.
I was just coming in to post about this. I had a Protege 5 for a few years, and that thing was awesome. Not a ton of power, but you just kept that thing mashed all the time, and it was a great time.
I'm a huge fan of slow car fast...especially in the city. You can wail on them as much as you want and never really get into troubnle. And if you have skinny tires, it's even better, because it feels faster and more dangerous. Having fun is all about the feeling a car gives you. Powerful cars in the city kind of suck...but the time you have it to a fun speed, you are over the limit or get into traffic.
I think an Abarth would be a hell of a great city car...especially since its small sizes gives you all the other advantages in the city (parking, small size to get in and out of placeS). If I had to commute, that would be one car I'd love to drive.
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At first glance I would lump people that drive them with the same group that drives Mini Coopers, Smart Cars and others of the sort. Not to offend anyone who drives any of those but there seems to be certain traits and similarities to those that do.
What an ignorant thing to say. You have clearly not driven a Mini or an Abarth.
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You certainly can have power and handling for cheap. Buy a VW GTI. Stock they are pretty quick, spend $800 bucks on an APR tune though, and you will be taking out BMW 335's and Porsche Boxster's.
You certainly can have power and handling for cheap. Buy a VW GTI. Stock they are pretty quick, spend $800 bucks on an APR tune though, and you will be taking out BMW 335's and Porsche Boxster's.
Not in the handling department. At least not as far as the Boxster is concerned.
That's why we love our MINI Cooper S so much. In JCW trim, it puts out over 200 BHP and goes in and out of corners like the dickens. Off ramps and on ramps are particularly fun, especially if there is an extra curve in them. It is amazing just how connected you feel with the road. The interior is great & very functional, and space is plentiful for a small car; the exhaust also crackles and pops on the overrun, but with a deeper note than the Abarth.
Our 2012 GTI is the best daily driver we've owned, my wife and I fight over who gets it. For the money they are one of the best cars out there, you'd have to spend nearly twice as much to get a comparable. I've had a handful of straight line rockets, but they are pretty overrated and cost too much compared to the fun factor.
We drove a GTI alongside the Cooper S around 2007. While the GTI was fun enough to drive, it felt sluggish going into the corners compared to the MINI and not nearly as smooth. The extra power was not really usable. The Audi A3 was comparable to an old Buick when it came to tight handling, very soft and squishy.