Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by speede5

It's not a private plane, it's an RCAF Challenger.

Ya the PM flies on military aircraft, not sure why people think the Prime Minister flies on a private jet.

[CaptainCrunch]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1556619987678179328

BTW there is literally no chance of this happening, Health Canada just issued the RFI for industry consultation at the end of July, The RFI isn't due until towards the end of August and talks about a minimum 6 month implementation.

[speede5]

I will say, as someone who works on a base, it is a double standard that everyone has to wear a mask anywhere indoors on base, but he can be on that plane with no mask.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

https://twitter.com/user/status/1556619987678179328

BTW there is literally no chance of this happening, Health Canada just issued the RFI for industry consultation at the end of July, The RFI isn't due until towards the end of August and talks about a minimum 6 month implementation.

Yeah, he's getting off the train.

We might have an election sooner than we think.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1556725133347266562

[Fuzz]

Pretty sure Jagmeet has no interest in attempting to work with a Pollivere government(he'd obviously get nothing), so it'd be pretty dumb for him to bail. This is just political games.

[Zarley]

Increasing chatter about a fall election. I have to wonder if the Liberals are looking for a way to engineer a way out of their NDP deal in hopes of squeaking in an election before the recession and inevitable collapse of the GTA and Vancouver housing markets.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by Zarley

Increasing chatter about a fall election. I have to wonder if the Liberals are looking for a way to engineer a way out of their NDP deal in hopes of squeaking in an election before the recession and inevitable collapse of the GTA and Vancouver housing markets.

They must realize they would very likely lose an election in the fall though.

Conservatives have been blaming housing prices on Trudeau for months, so they either want the prices to fall, or not. I find all of this exhausting at this point. Trudeau is a dope, and the cons are embarrassing themselves.

"Fix inflation!" - "Don't raise interest rates!".

"Lower house prices!" - Don't raise interest rates!"

"Houses are too expensive in Van & GTA" - "Don't let prices drop in Van & GTA"..

[IliketoPuck]

Pierre Polivere is never winning a national election. Full stop.

If the liberals are floating the idea of a fall election, it's because they like their chances of solidifying power, and they view the opposition as weak.

Can't say I blame them. A populist conservative candidate that was glad handing with the trucker convoy and giving out free Bitcoin investment advice is as easy to tar and feather as it gets.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Pierre Polivere is never winning a national election. Full stop.

If the liberals are floating the idea of a fall election, it's because they like their chances of solidifying power, and they view the opposition as weak.

Can't say I blame them. A populist conservative candidate that was glad handing with the trucker convoy and giving out free Bitcoin investment advice is as easy to tar and feather as it gets.

I thought PP couldn't win a month ago.... but with polls tracking and people just begging for a change... liberals split the vote with NDP..

I sadly would take that bet that PP wins. I can't stand him but I think he is destined to win.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Pierre Polivere is never winning a national election. Full stop.

If the liberals are floating the idea of a fall election, it's because they like their chances of solidifying power, and they view the opposition as weak.

Can't say I blame them. A populist conservative candidate that was glad handing with the trucker convoy and giving out free Bitcoin investment advice is as easy to tar and feather as it gets.

Precisely. They called a snap election during a pandemic because O'Toole had only been in the job for a few months.

They're probably looking at pulling the same trick again against a largely leaderless principle opposition.

But I'd wager that the results are going to be exactly the same.

I'm still pissed about the Pandemic election that landed us back exactly where we started so I'd likely not be much happier about another failed power-grab that is going to likely land us back exactly where we started. Again.

And then once again Trudeau and Singh remain bedfellows.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Pierre Polivere is never winning a national election. Full stop.

If the liberals are floating the idea of a fall election, it's because they like their chances of solidifying power, and they view the opposition as weak.

Can't say I blame them. A populist conservative candidate that was glad handing with the trucker convoy and giving out free Bitcoin investment advice is as easy to tar and feather as it gets.

I disagree. I hope I'm wrong (not because I want Trudeau, but because I think PP would be an absolute disaster in every single way).

I think PP is likely to win... Very difficult for a PM to win this many elections in a row.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Mull

I thought PP couldn't win a month ago.... but with polls tracking and people just begging for a change... liberals split the vote with NDP..

I sadly would take that bet that PP wins. I can't stand him but I think he is destined to win.

I suspect the left would consolidate behind the Liberals if PP is the alternative. It'd be close. An early election really has no benefits to the NDP, they'd lose support and power.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I suspect the left would consolidate behind the Liberals if PP is the alternative. It'd be close. An early election really has no benefits to the NDP, they'd lose support and power.

One difference next election if PP wins the leadership is the PPC is effectively neutralized.

Haven’t seen how many, if any seats they caused the CPC to loose last election because of vote split- but I recall scrolling through some sheet showing ridings and votes snd thinking if 100% of their votes went to CPC it may of made some difference- just based on a glance.

Anyone seen an assessment?

[IliketoPuck]

PP is attempting to do a Canadianized version of GOP style populist politics. He's just not good at it at all. It's like comparing Dudley Do-Right to Die Hard.

This isn't complicated. If the Liberals are floating an election they see it as an opportune time to strike. Their opponents are under financed (NDP/Green) or trending further right on the spectrum (UPC) than previously, making them easy pickings.

There is zero chance that right wing politics will ever fly in eastern Canada. Zero. If PP wins the nomination, I'd call an election immediately and make it about every single social issue possible, while pointing to the budget surplus that gives a plausible argument to finances being in good shape.

Until the UPC get their shirt together and focus on what makes them a reasonable choice (fiscal prudence, allegedly) and stop trying to be a big tent party for the entirety of the right (with all of the crazy that brings along), they won't win a federal election.

[CaptainCrunch]

If there's a election come the fall, I expect there to be a voter lashback against the Liberals for it happening.

Lets be honest, Justin wants that majority position to cement whatever his legacy is in his mind.

I would expect that PP wins a minority. The Libs and NDP form against it and force a spring election after giving PP enough rope to hang himself, and it goes on and on and on.

At this point, it would be nice to take all three parties, package them all up in boxes and shoot them into orbit.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

If there's a election come the fall, I expect there to be a voter lashback against the Liberals for it happening.

Lets be honest, Justin wants that majority position to cement whatever his legacy is in his mind.

I would expect that PP wins a minority. The Libs and NDP form against it and force a spring election after giving PP enough rope to hang himself, and it goes on and on and on.

At this point, it would be nice to take all three parties, package them all up in boxes and shoot them into orbit.

That's what everyone said last year, too. "An unnecessary election during a pandemic? The Liberals will get punished for this!"

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

PP is attempting to do a Canadianized version of GOP style populist politics. He's just not good at it at all. It's like comparing Dudley Do-Right to Die Hard.

This isn't complicated. If the Liberals are floating an election they see it as an opportune time to strike. Their opponents are under financed (NDP/Green) or trending further right on the spectrum (UPC) than previously, making them easy pickings.

There is zero chance that right wing politics will ever fly in eastern Canada. Zero. If PP wins the nomination, I'd call an election immediately and make it about every single social issue possible, while pointing to the budget surplus that gives a plausible argument to finances being in good shape.

Until the UPC get their shirt together and focus on what makes them a reasonable choice (fiscal prudence, allegedly) and stop trying to be a big tent party for the entirety of the right (with all of the crazy that brings along), they won't win a federal election.

Only a fool speaks in absolutes about politics.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1556391786972602370

[Wormius]

It would literally be cheaper to just implement the policies than to have a snap election. I don’t think an election is happening and I don’t Singh is going to force one.

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Only a fool speaks in absolutes about politics.

Fair critique.

Let’s amend and say I would find it very surprising for eastern Canada, Quebec in particular, to vote for a party with a conservative social ideology on a national level.