Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Update: Acquitted On All Charges

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Let’s not conflate the blaming of Rittenhouse and his situation with what most people think of victim blaming as.

He is an idiot and he should have armed himself with pepper spray instead of a gun. Nobody would be dead. It is stupid that people think that the only way he could have protected himself was to shoot 3 people.

It’s nuts that murder is basically legal and people are fine with it.

He was a victim. You are saying he is responsible.

Therefore you are victim blaming.

It's simple.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

You do not give up your right to not be assaulted or killed by being a public space. You do not give up your right to not be assaulted or killed by carrying a legal weapon. You do not give up your right to not be assaulted or killed by wearing certain clothes.

But you give up public support and you definitely give up my personal support. He wasn't walking down the street or being in a public space doing something innocuous. He was carrying a loaded assault rifle in a riot. He was looking for someone to agitate and he found it, he willingly and intentionally put himself in a dangerous position and other people paid the price. Everything he did was technically legal, but it was still a culmination of awful decisions based on a misplaced idea of justice.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

He was a victim. You are saying he is responsible.

Therefore you are victim blaming.

It's simple.

Yeah. Victim of what?

I know the US is a messed up place, but if I saw some suspicious guy wandering around with a gun here and I had the opportunity to stop him by smacking him with a skateboard, I’d consider that a reasonable reaction to that threat. Hell, to be honest, all of the encounters that Rittenhouse came across could be self-defence from their points of view. He should be grateful the last guy didn’t shoot him first.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Yeah. Victim of what?

I know the US is a messed up place, but if I saw some suspicious guy wandering around with a gun here and I had the opportunity to stop him by smacking him with a skateboard, I’d consider that a reasonable reaction to that threat. Hell, to be honest, all of the encounters that Rittenhouse came across could be self-defence from their points of view. He should be grateful the last guy didn’t shoot him first.

He was a victim of attempted murder, amongst other things.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

But you give up public support and you definitely give up my personal support. He wasn't walking down the street or being in a public space doing something innocuous. He was carrying a loaded assault rifle in a riot. He was looking for someone to agitate and he found it, he willingly and intentionally put himself in a dangerous position and other people paid the price. Everything he did was technically legal, but it was still a culmination of awful decisions based on a misplaced idea of justice.

He was being innocuous. Carrying a gun is permitted. There is no evidence he was looking to agitate. The only people that paid a price were the people that attempted to do him serious injury. You are victim blaming.

When I say people don't know the facts of what happened, I mean it.

You are factually incorrect of your understanding of the incident.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

He was being innocuous. Carrying a gun is permitted. There is no evidence he was looking to agitate. The only people that paid a price were the people that attempted to do him serious injury. You are victim blaming.

When I say people don't know the facts of what happened, I mean it.

You are factually incorrect of your understanding of the incident.

Punk kid travels to another state with a cool borrowed AR-15 that he couldn't legally own to "protect" some property of which he didn't even know the owner seems fishy but to the leave the property and march threw the crowd like Rambo sure seems like he was looking for trouble or maybe even some sick fame, either way he's an idiot and I hope those two lives he took haunt him to suicide in the near future.

[Dion]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1461894169580953600

[CliffFletcher]

It’s curious how certain incidents linger in the cultural memory and others don’t, depending on political sympathies. A lot of people seem to have forgotten all about the Dallas BLM march in 2016 that included more than 20 men legally carrying long guns and assault rifles.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Yeah. Victim of what?

I know the US is a messed up place, but if I saw some suspicious guy wandering around with a gun here and I had the opportunity to stop him by smacking him with a skateboard, I’d consider that a reasonable reaction to that threat. Hell, to be honest, all of the encounters that Rittenhouse came across could be self-defence from their points of view. He should be grateful the last guy didn’t shoot him first.

In the US, carrying a gun alone is not a threat. It's like carry anything else.

Was Rittenhouse irresponsible? Did he utter threats and antagonize? The prosecution could not prove this.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

"she was dressed too sexy and was asking for it"

If there was evidence that how a rape victim was dressed led to an increase in rapes then perhaps you could start to have an analogy. It’s fairly clear that Rittenhouse holds a large portion of the causality of this event. It’s pretty gross comparing Rittenhouses action to a sexual assault trope that prevents assaults from being reported and investigated.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It’s curious how certain incidents linger in the cultural memory and others don’t, depending on political sympathies. A lot of people seem to have forgotten all about the Dalls BLM march in 2016 that included more than 20 men legally carrying long guns and assault rifles.

Will we remember this in 2025?

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by GGG

If there was evidence that how a rape victim was dressed led to an increase in rapes then perhaps you could start to have an analogy. It’s fairly clear that Rittenhouse holds a large portion of the causality of this event. It’s pretty gross comparing Rittenhouses action to a sexual assault trope that prevents assaults from being reported and investigated.

Yeah, well, I think victim blaming is gross. So, here we are. Grossed out. Cool.

[Azure]

There have been quite a few protests with people walking around armed that never led to any violence.

It is not out of the realm of possibility that armed civilians standing in front of their place of business would discourage people from looting and destroying that business.

When people are pushed against a wall because the state failed them, what do we think will happen?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

I don't think I've taken a position on the morality other than to say he was a dopey trump supporting idiot. Legally he will obviously be found not guilty barring some horrible miscarriage of justice.

Morally? Shoulda stayed home. Or not go running around with an AR

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Yeah, well, I think victim blaming is gross. So, here we are. Grossed out. Cool.

What happened between these posts?

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by GGG

What happened between these posts?

Nothing?

Did you think this was a political show trial? A staged reality show trial? He wasn't on trial for being a dopey Trump supporter. He wasn't on trial for having a bad Mom. He was on trial for murder which was obviously self defence.

I think this reply by you really sums up how some people could not for the life of them separate the law from their politics.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

In the US, carrying a gun alone is not a threat. It's like carry anything else.

Was Rittenhouse irresponsible? Did he utter threats and antagonize? The prosecution could not prove this.

This is not true. Holstered pistols, sure. But I’m not sure why people are taking to lying to pretend that open carrying an assault rifle is not a show of aggression, even in the US.

I honestly question if any of you have even been down to the US, let alone lived there. You sound like idiots, to be totally honest. Why are a bunch of Canadians pretending they know best about gun culture in the US? Go read another book.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Nothing?

Did you think this was a political show trial? A staged reality show trial? He wasn't on trial for being a dopey Trump supporter. He wasn't on trial for having a bad Mom. He was on trial for murder which was obviously self defence.

I think this reply by you really sums up how some people could not for the life of them separate the law from their politics.

I think he’s referring to you clearly blaming the victim to you crying about victim blaming.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think he’s referring to you clearly blaming the victim to you crying about victim blaming.

I didn't blame the victim. Blaming the victim is me saying he should have stayed home and therefor was guilty. I think he was both innocent and showed poor judgement in going to Kenosha, but really, this falls a lot on the dumb Mom.

[Fuzz]

Isn't the victim the dead guy?

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Isn't the victim the dead guy?

No that's the perpetrator. Thats the kind of greasy logic where someone breaking into your home gets hurt when you defend yourself and tries to sue with Lionel Hutz as their attorney.