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Old 08-07-2024, 01:18 PM   #18241
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Like.... did they not vet (sic) Vance or...?
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:27 PM   #18242
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:27 PM   #18243
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Like.... did they not vet (sic) Vance or...?
They did, they sat him down in a room and interviewed him for hours. His actions towards the couch were quite surprising however. That’s why the couch is no more.

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Old 08-07-2024, 01:30 PM   #18244
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The gist is they didn’t think it mattered. He was chosen when it looked like a cakewalk for Trump. Biden’s mental acuity was being questioned daily, Democrat enthusiasm was at an all time low, he was a luxury pick to further entrench the MAGA core.
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Old 08-07-2024, 01:34 PM   #18245
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Vance was also a pick to satiate the Silicon Valley bros like Thiel that have their dicks buried deep in the GOP right now.

A groomed empty suit with the personality of wet cardboard that they can push their agendas through.
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Vance was also a pick to satiate the Silicon Valley bros like Thiel that have their dicks buried deep in the GOP right now.

A groomed empty suit with the personality of wet cardboard that they can push their agendas through.
I’d forgotten about that. He sucks in so many ways it’s easy to gloss over some of them
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The gist is they didn’t think it mattered. He was chosen when it looked like a cakewalk for Trump. Biden’s mental acuity was being questioned daily, Democrat enthusiasm was at an all time low, he was a luxury pick to further entrench the MAGA core.
Trump is also just terrible at picking people. Just look at his White House staff or his lawyers.
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I don't think Trump really picked the guy. Apparently Junior is a big fan of Vance and Thiel, and he was pushed as the VP pick accordingly. This is what I was saying a few weeks ago about this unholy alliance between ideological far-right interests who think they're going to be raptured soon and ideologically vacant rich guys who want the system to favour the further accretion of wealth and thereby power. Trump is just riding that wave, they help him, he doesn't care what policy outcomes result or how badly the country is trashed in the process. Just get him back into the White House.

EDIT: This is what I meant.

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Vance has a strong possibility of going to jail, based on Trump's former entourage
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“I’m sad because of all I’ve invested in all this anti-Biden gear,” the man said, totallng the cost of the merchandise as “thousands of dollars.” “I buy it at the ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ store in Toms River, New Jersey … I think they’re gonna have to rename.”
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Old 08-07-2024, 02:28 PM   #18251
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Well, in most political campaigns, it's a matter of perspective - each side's faithful will say that the things they're concerned about are "real dangers" rather than fearmongering. It's a tough line to draw, most of the time, without being hypocritical.
It's hypocritical to speak out about things like climate change and authoritarianism as threats to society, without pretending that trans women in sports or drag queens are also a threat to society?

Alrighty then...
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No, I didn't say that.

God, some people on this board are hopelessly simple... learn to read, please, rather than putting words in my mouth. JFC.
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Well then you're going to have to clear up the "tough line to draw without being hypocritical" part. I don't think I misread it.
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well, there goes another MAGA talking point. Lol


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No, I don't need to clear that up. I'm adequately certain that anyone with a brain can read that post and the immediately preceding post and understand my point that this particular campaign is far outside of historical norms, for very obvious reasons. If anyone thinks I meant what you just tried to attribute to me, they aren't smart enough to be worth clarifying for.
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Oh, ok then!!!
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Trump's 2nd favorite person in the world continues to transform Hungary into a dictatorship. https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...n-on-its-media

America, this is the path you're going down if you vote for Trump. (For the record, I put this in the category of "warning about real danger" not "spreading fear".)
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Well then you're going to have to clear up the "tough line to draw without being hypocritical" part. I don't think I misread it.
I'm with you on this. But I guess I'm just a moron too.

Corsi, it really reads like you 'both sides'-d the argument. And I think its fair to ask for counter examples.
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Old 08-07-2024, 03:08 PM   #18259
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Finally got to watch the Gov. Josh Shapiro speech. Wow the Democrats are going to be in the White House a long time which is a good thing. He so reminds me of Obama. A lot of the same mannerisms.
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I'm with you on this. But I guess I'm just a moron too.

Corsi, it really reads like you 'both sides'-d the argument. And I think its fair to ask for counter examples.
He didn’t, not in the way Mathgod is positioning it.

Both sides DO run campaigns based on fear, that’s a “both sides” that’s true, so the hypocrisy is either side (or a supporter of either side) positioning themselves against a fear-based campaign.

If Side A says “Trans people are a danger to society, they must be stopped! We will stop it, vote for us!”

And Side B says “Campaigning on fear is ridiculous and I am against it. And also, climate change is a serious threat to our world and must be stopped! We will stop it, vote for us!”

Side B is a hypocrite. It doesn’t matter that Side B’s concern is valid and side A’s isn’t, because the hypocrisy comes from the approach, not the content.

You can’t be against “fear mongering” as a concept while ringing alarm bells (fear mongering) about climate change and fascism.
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