07-29-2022, 11:28 AM
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#1041
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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This could have been easily fixed by charging $10 per ticket and having the proceeds go to charity.
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08-16-2022, 08:08 PM
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#1042
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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At least this disgusting pig did not rape children, right? More deplorable behavior from these filthy, charlatan clowns.
Prominent cardinal named in sexual assault lawsuit against archdiocese of Quebec
Cardinal Marc Ouellet is among 88 members of the clergy facing sexual assault allegations
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...ault-1.6552456
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08-16-2022, 08:33 PM
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#1043
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Oh hey, another one. And lets not skip over the Christian "schools" in Saskatchewan that get tax dollars to abuse children.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...ewan-1.6548860
When are Canadians going to wake up to this abuse? It's not 100, or 50, or 20 years ago, it's today. These people can't be trusted with children, ever. I'm baffled how people can continue to go to church and hand out money and turn their children over to these people. Stop it.
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08-25-2022, 01:50 PM
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#1044
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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Nice! : )
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/northern...fire-1.6041906
Very little is left of a northern Alberta Catholic church that went up in flames early Thursday morning.
RCMP said a blaze at an inactive Catholic church in Fort Chipewyan was reported at 2:34 a.m.
A community member identified the building as the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Roman Catholic Church, built in 1909.
In a Facebook livestream at 3:20 a.m., Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation (ACFN) chief Allan Adam said the building is "completely destroyed."
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08-25-2022, 02:33 PM
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#1045
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Originally Posted by Engine09
Nice! : )
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/northern...fire-1.6041906
Very little is left of a northern Alberta Catholic church that went up in flames early Thursday morning.
RCMP said a blaze at an inactive Catholic church in Fort Chipewyan was reported at 2:34 a.m.
A community member identified the building as the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Roman Catholic Church, built in 1909.
In a Facebook livestream at 3:20 a.m., Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation (ACFN) chief Allan Adam said the building is "completely destroyed."
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Uh. This is a hate crime. Definitely not “nice”.
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08-25-2022, 02:52 PM
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#1046
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A lot of Indigenous seniors are deeply distressed by this. But they are Catholic, so fist-bumps all around, I guess?
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… Chief Allan Adam of the Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation (ACFN) said he was “devastated” the church was gone. The community recently hosted two days of public meetings explaining how archaeologists will search the residential school grounds, and Adam believes “it just triggered something out of somebody.”
“What happened at the residential schools is not the lord’s doing. It was men and women. Priests and brothers and nuns,” he said in a Thursday morning interview. “Where do we go now for funerals or to ask for prayers? It never should have happened, it was uncalled for. I’m just lost for words right now.”
ACFN elder Alice Rigney called the church’s destruction an “attack on the community’s history.” Rigney was another survivor of physical and sexual abuse during her 10 years at the Holy Angels Residential School. She remembers cheering when she watched the demolition of the residential school, calling it “a place of Hell.”
“Burning the church doesn’t prove anything. It shows how malicious some people can be. The individual who did this, I would say they don’t have a conscience,” she said on Thursday morning. “There is no reconciliation in this. It does not prove reconciliation at all.”
https://www.fortmcmurraytoday.com/ne...fort-chipewyan
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08-25-2022, 02:57 PM
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#1047
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Originally Posted by Engine09
At least this disgusting pig did not rape children, right? More deplorable behavior from these filthy, charlatan clowns.
Prominent cardinal named in sexual assault lawsuit against archdiocese of Quebec
Cardinal Marc Ouellet is among 88 members of the clergy facing sexual assault allegations
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...ault-1.6552456
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This is crazy. Ouellette was one of the front runners when Pope Benedict retired. This ends his chances when Francis dies or retires.
If you diddle kids, ####ing kill yourself.
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08-25-2022, 03:32 PM
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#1048
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
This is crazy. Ouellette was one of the front runners when Pope Benedict retired. This ends his chances when Francis dies or retires.
If you diddle kids, ####ing kill yourself.
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I thought I'd actually read the article. Creepy and disgusting behaviour, but not "diddling kids".
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08-25-2022, 03:39 PM
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#1049
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Originally Posted by zuluking
I thought I'd actually read the article. Creepy and disgusting behaviour, but not "diddling kids".
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I have a tough time reading those articles so I usually don't, I admit. A lot of times they are far too disturbing.
But creepy and disgusting toward a child is just as unacceptable as abuse/assault.
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08-26-2022, 09:24 AM
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#1050
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I have a tough time reading those articles so I usually don't, I admit. A lot of times they are far too disturbing.
But creepy and disgusting toward a child is just as unacceptable as abuse/assault.
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Sorry, I'm not defending the guy, but you keep getting it wrong. From the article: "You have at that time a young woman in her mid-20s versus a powerful man in a position of authority, known worldwide at the time, who was maybe 60."
Why add "toward a child"? If you don't read the article, maybe you should refrain from commenting on it.
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08-26-2022, 09:31 AM
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#1051
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Originally Posted by zuluking
Sorry, I'm not defending the guy, but you keep getting it wrong. From the article: "You have at that time a young woman in her mid-20s versus a powerful man in a position of authority, known worldwide at the time, who was maybe 60."
Why add "toward a child"? If you don't read the article, maybe you should refrain from commenting on it.
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Point taken.
99% of the time we are talking about sex scandals with the Catholic church, children are the victims so I assumed here.
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08-26-2022, 12:03 PM
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#1052
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Point taken.
99% of the time we are talking about sex scandals with the Catholic church, children are the victims so I assumed here.
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Yep, my guess is the overwhelming word most people would associate with 'priest' would be 'pedo'
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08-26-2022, 12:50 PM
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#1053
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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With the huge numbers of children raped and murdered by the catholic church it's quite an easy mistake to make. I actually mentioned how unusual this was when I posted the original link.
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
Uh. This is a hate crime. Definitely not “nice”.
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Yeah, definitely not nice, incredibly awesome. I honestly don't care, it's only a building and at most a symbol for the most embarrassing aspect of humanity.
I would never do anything like that but no one got hurt, they'll just have to talk to themselves and pray to their imaginary God somewhere else. Unless you believe in magic and believe the building was "blessed" and a conduit to the heavenly father.
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08-26-2022, 01:12 PM
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#1054
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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I certainly wouldn't encourage the destruction of property and the burning of churches, but I understand why they might be targeted. I mean, if the actual schools were destroyed, would anyone shed a tear?
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08-26-2022, 01:28 PM
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#1055
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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
I certainly wouldn't encourage the destruction of property and the burning of churches, but I understand why they might be targeted. I mean, if the actual schools were destroyed, would anyone shed a tear?
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The actual school was demolished years ago. And no tears were shed. The article I quoted makes that clear.
But the church was the centre of the community and a connection to their loved ones for many residents.
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“When I enter that building, I feel at peace. It’s soothing to be there. All my troubles are gone when I walk in that door,” says Whiteknife, a lifelong member of the Parish of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin, and the organizer of an ongoing fundraising campaign to restore the 109-year-old church.
“It’s a place of love, a place of welcome, a place of sanctuary and a place of warmth,” she says. “There’s a strong sense of belonging, of community. When I’m in that building, I feel the love of generations of my family members who have completed their journey here on Earth.”
… The church remains an important landmark and a community gathering place to this day, still playing host to weekly services, marriages, baptisms, communions, and funerals. However, the century-old wooden building is in need of repairs to its foundation as well as its superstructure, which must be made carefully with deference to the church’s historic resource designation.
https://www.enbridge.com/stories/201...alberta-church
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08-26-2022, 01:33 PM
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#1056
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Originally Posted by Engine09
With the huge numbers of children raped and murdered by the catholic church it's quite an easy mistake to make. I actually mentioned how unusual this was when I posted the original link.
Yeah, definitely not nice, incredibly awesome. I honestly don't care, it's only a building and at most a symbol for the most embarrassing aspect of humanity.
I would never do anything like that but no one got hurt, they'll just have to talk to themselves and pray to their imaginary God somewhere else. Unless you believe in magic and believe the building was "blessed" and a conduit to the heavenly father.
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Perhaps you should go to Northern Alberta and tell the Indigenous Catholics there that they are morons for wanting to have a church building.
In fact, maybe you should create a new building where you can have the opportunity to teach them your enlightened ways? Maybe even call it a school, where white people tell Native people how dumb their current faith system is.
Just an idea.
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08-26-2022, 01:42 PM
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#1057
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
In fact, maybe you should create a new building where you can have the opportunity to teach them your enlightened ways? Maybe even call it a school, where white people tell Native people how dumb their current faith system is.
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Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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08-26-2022, 03:10 PM
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#1058
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The actual school was demolished years ago. And no tears were shed. The article I quoted makes that clear.
But the church was the centre of the community and a connection to their loved ones for many residents.
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Sure, but it might also represent really horrific things to others. Again, not shedding any tears.
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08-27-2022, 07:31 PM
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#1059
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Perhaps you should go to Northern Alberta and tell the Indigenous Catholics there that they are morons for wanting to have a church building.
In fact, maybe you should create a new building where you can have the opportunity to teach them your enlightened ways? Maybe even call it a school, where white people tell Native people how dumb their current faith system is.
Just an idea.
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No need to create a new building, almost every small town has a library with shelves of books on science. Far more useful to any person with the desire for truth, logic and reason rather than the laziness of superstition.
Just an idea.
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08-27-2022, 08:21 PM
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#1060
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Originally Posted by Engine09
With the huge numbers of children raped and murdered by the catholic church it's quite an easy mistake to make. I actually mentioned how unusual this was when I posted the original link.
Yeah, definitely not nice, incredibly awesome. I honestly don't care, it's only a building and at most a symbol for the most embarrassing aspect of humanity.
I would never do anything like that but no one got hurt, they'll just have to talk to themselves and pray to their imaginary God somewhere else. Unless you believe in magic and believe the building was "blessed" and a conduit to the heavenly father.
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One of the challenges is that the evangelism of the Church worked and you have many indigenous Catholics who were victims of residential schools now being victimized again by the loss of their community structures. It’s not as simple as Church bad. Real harm is being done by these acts while other people may take solace in the destruction.
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