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Old 06-21-2020, 12:57 PM   #1
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Since I couldnít find a post dedicated to televisions I figured we should have one because Iím sure like me there are others in CP land that could use some help/advice.

I have a Samsung UN60JU6390F essential a 4 year old Samsung 6 series. Iím having brutal issues with black pixelation on it. It happens no matter if itís off the Telus 4K box or steaming on Netflix or Prime. I have tied different picture/display settings and multiple HDMI cords and itís still an issue.

Any other possible suggestions that it may be ?

Now, if itís just the way the TV is the wife has given me the go ahead to buy a new 60Ē-65Ē tv with a budget of $1000-$1500. Anyone have any suggestions or experiences with anything that size ? Itís going to be in a room with a huge window directly across from it so something that performs well in a bright room is a must. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Old 06-21-2020, 01:55 PM   #2
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There was this one that may be of some help.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?p=7382623
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Old 06-21-2020, 02:07 PM   #3
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https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...ished/14283142

Probably the only way to get that under 1500.
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Old 06-21-2020, 03:07 PM   #4
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^^^^^^
Wow, yep. I was going to post some suggestions, but if you're okay with the refurb I'd absolutely grab that Vizio P series. I grabbed an open box TV from best buy and the guy threw in the 4 year warranty for $100, so it was basically like buying a new TV.

I'd buy at least a year just in case there's something the geek squad missed while testing and reissuing. I believe you also have 30 days to return as well.
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I would note that that particular unit is sold by TVOutlet, and I don't know what their relationship with Best Buy actually is. So there's some risk taken on there. You might be better off buying direct from their own website as you save $100 that way:

https://www.tvoutlet.ca/products/viz...art-tv-px65-g1

... But I don't actually know if Best Buy adds any protection on the sale for being the go-between.

EDIT: On the lower end of the price range, buying this and tacking on the 5 year warranty for $137 would be pretty solid, although I am not sure what their warranty terms are...

https://www.tvoutlet.ca/collections/...mart-tv-m706-g
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Old 06-21-2020, 06:48 PM   #6
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When I added the protection on my open box the guy said you can add it to anything sold through their website ( I was also looking at a refurbed TCL), including refurbs through connected third party.

Problem is, sometimes Best Buy staff knowledge about their products and services is around the same level as "tweeker outside Tim Hortons". My gut tells me they wouldn't warranty third party, but honestly they make so much money off those warranties, it wouldn't surprise me either.

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Old 06-21-2020, 08:38 PM   #7
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Vizio Vizio Vizio. Or tcl.
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I went with the TCL 75" 6 series and couldn't be happier. I could see the quality upgrade in other models, but there's no way to get them for under $2000 for a 75". I would highly recommend the TCL 6 series if you'd like to go up to 75" (and for all the "it'll be too big" criticism I heard, you get used to it really quick and then after a month you can't believe you had anything smaller).

It's an incredible model for the price, which is exactly what TCL set out to do. They wanted to undercut the market to build market share, that is something you should take advantage of unless money isn't an object. The blacks levels are excellent.

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But here's the thing, if you don't want to go to a 75", then I would actually steer towards the Sony 900F. This TV is beautiful in the sub $2k range, and was actually displayed right beside the TCL 6 series. The sony had a visibly better colour and brightness display, it just popped a lot more, and there was some slight "flicker" in the buildings on the TCL that was seamless on the Sony. It is absolutely a better TV and no one should question that. But...

TCL 6 series 65" - $829
TCL 6 series 75" - $1499
Sony 900F 65" - $1499


It's a tough call and to be honest if I had a do over I'd pony up and grab the Sony 900F 75" at $2800 (It's now $2500), but the TCL is clearly one of the best bang for the buck TV's available if budget is a concern, and in that respect I'm very happy with the 6 series 75".

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Now if you're set on 65" then cost should be a major factor as the 65" TCL is $829 vs $1499 for the Sony, this is incredibly significant. And to be honest it's pretty dumb that Sony is already into the new model (950G) at $1899 and has had no reduction in price on the 900f while the TCL has come down.

For reference I was offered the 65" Sony 900F at $1300 at visions in November when it was at $1499, while the TCL 75" was at $1899. The TCL 75" is now $1499.
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I'm just crapping all over the thread with info now and I apologize, but my final bit of advice is Best By DOES barter, remember this. I ended up with the open box but they were willing to go down on multiple new TV's at multiple locations during my shopping.

Basically $100-$200 off a $1300+ TV is not an issue, so when you decide on your TV don't be afraid to bug a couple locations until you get something off. You really should be able to get that Sony 900f for $1200-$1300 at this point and if you do that is a clear cut winner for me for your budget and size.

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https://www.visions.ca/catalogue/cat...Text=sony%20tv


The Sony 900f is actually $1350 at visions (on sale, but that's likely more of a permanent sale is it's last years model). Honestly, if you're set on 65", go down to a visions, say you'll walk out with it for $1200 and you'll likely get it and that will be an excellent TV that you'll absolutely love.


This is the video I first watched that directly compares the two, btw. Great info and comparison here.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yZkEn-VDls&t=388s youtube imbedding isn't working, here's the link. It's actually the 950G but by all accounts the 900f and 950G are pretty similar in performance.

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Thanks for all the info everyone. I have a 55Ē Vizio in my basement I use doe gaming that is about 10 years old and I swear itís quality still holds up amazingly well. I would defiantly get another one. For some reason I canít help but think of TCL as a lesser model of a TV even though I know they make a great product. Itís just engrained in my head that Samsung/LG/Sony are the way to go. So itís great to hear feedback on the TCL. If the boarder ever opens back up and I can head to my place in Montana I know you can catch the Vizio P series for a steal down there at times.

I havenít really done much TV buying at Best Buy but have had great experiences at Visions in the past. But maybe Iíll try them out.
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I went with the TCL 75" 6 series and couldn't be happier. I could see the quality upgrade in other models, but there's no way to get them for under $2000 for a 75". I would highly recommend the TCL 6 series if you'd like to go up to 75" (and for all the "it'll be too big" criticism I heard, you get used to it really quick and then after a month you can't believe you had anything smaller).

It's an incredible model for the price, which is exactly what TCL set out to do. They wanted to undercut the market to build market share, that is something you should take advantage of unless money isn't an object. The blacks levels are excellent.
Yeah the TCL 6 series TVs are phenomenal. I have a 65" and it's terrific.

4 series... not so much. But 6 series is tremendous.
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So I ended up getting a 65Ē Vizio P series. I actually found one at Openbox which is a great store if you havenít been. Got it on clearance for $749 which was an absolute steal. I was stuck between the Vizio and a Sony XBR65X850G that they had for $899. They were awesome enough to mount them side by side and give me both remotes to play with the TVís for 20 minutes and see which I preferred.

Got it hung on the wall and just finished watching the an episode of F1 Drive to Survive and am happy as can be.

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This is a useful thread thank you

we have an 11 year old first generation LED Samsung, which has been brilliant.
Recently (the last 2 years) it has started to show it's age, but it is nothing a smack in the back doesn't fix.


I need a new TV.
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Vizio announced some new TVs a few days ago with HDMI 2.1. They've got an 85" that sounds pretty decent. We've had a Sharp 80" for about 6-7 years now and we're looking to upgrade to something in that range with 4K and it looks like it fits the bill. Or the Sony 900H which seems to be getting good feedback.

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