Canadian Military News

[undercoverbrother]

An old memory popped up today.

I don't care what they found, I ain't ever been right and neither have many many others.

[Bigtime]

Boeing to offer the P-8A as a replacement for the CP-140 Aurora's.
Is there really any other choice out there?

https://skiesmag.com/press-releases/...craft-project/

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Boeing to offer the P-8A as a replacement for the CP-140 Aurora's.
Is there really any other choice out there?

https://skiesmag.com/press-releases/...craft-project/

Yeah not really much choice in that market. I know Airbus is making something based on the A319 but don't think it's too far along in the process yet

[Number 39]

Honestly, the P-8A is looking like the next NATO/Western standard ASW platform. Probably makes a lot of sense for Canada.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Yeah not really much choice in that market. I know Airbus is making something based on the A319 but don't think it's too far along in the process yet

Sub hunting aircraft are pretty specialized, there's not a lot of options out there.


I'm guessing that Boeing offered it because I think the American's stopped buying them as part of their military budget cuts.



I think that Saab has the Sword fish. Japan has a Kawasaki.



Airbus has the 295 and a new one is being designed. As far as I know the Russian's are still using the Bear Foxtrot as an antisubmarine platform.

[btimbit]

Finally looking to fill one of our more noticeable capability gaps


Canadian military eyes new ground-based air defence system at a cost of $1 billion

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/natio...t-of-1-billion

The Canadian military has started the process to purchase a new high-tech system worth up to $1 billion that will be capable of shooting down enemy aircraft, missiles and drones.


Government procurement specialists will request ideas from industry sometime this year as the Canadian Army works out the specifics of what it wants in such a system.

[Harry Lime]

The path a lot of USSR, sorry, Russian missiles would take would send them directly over our heads across the Arctic. This is desperately needed for our own safety and is extremely significant for our own sovereignty when it comes to the Arctic. The fact that 'government procurement specialists' don't have any kind of a concrete deadline to get this done makes me feel like this is another multi-decade runaround.

Putin is freaking insane. If ever there was a time to fasttrack something.

[CaptainCrunch]

Ok, fine if its designed to shoot down opposing aircraft and drones, However with the Russian's putting a ton of money into hypersonic cruise and glide missiles, and the threat of ballistic missiles I don't know what they're talking about, and the cost of a billion dollars sounds like its coming out of their a$$es.


Right now there isn't a defense against Hypersonic cruise missiles, they fly low intelligently maneuver and at hypersonic speeds so Radar warnings are going to be sketchy at best, and there's not a missile out there that certified as a counter. Instead the US is experimenting with "Lasers". as a counter.


In terms of Ballistic Missiles, they are incredibly fast in the terminal stage (roughly 25,000 km/h, so they would outrun an exploding SAM), so frankly most ABM's are built around mid and early course interception.



A good article on what's labeled as the Complex Air Defense system


https://www.csis.org/analysis/comple...ssile-threat-0


A look at the issues of ballistic missile defenses


https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ssile-defense/

[Julio]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The path a lot of USSR, sorry, Russian missiles would take would send them directly over our heads across the Arctic. This is desperately needed for our own safety and is extremely significant for our own sovereignty when it comes to the Arctic. The fact that 'government procurement specialists' don't have any kind of a concrete deadline to get this done makes me feel like this is another multi-decade runaround.

Putin is freaking insane. If ever there was a time to fasttrack something.

This procurement isn't a ballistic defense buy, but more of an in theatre anti aircraft capability: From the article:


"During the April 5 briefing, industry officials were informed the system would also be able to target cruise missiles, helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft. The new system wouldn’t be capable of tackling larger weapons, such as theatre ballistic missiles or intercontinental ballistic missiles."

[Harry Lime]

Ahhh, so the current "dudes with slingshots" method is still pretty up to date then. It would be cool if we could spend a million to put a bunch of smart people in a room and come up with a solution unique to canada, seeing as how canada is in a unique situation.

[btimbit]

I think it'll simply be something like AMRAAM-ER's bolted to a LAV

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Julio

This procurement isn't a ballistic defense buy, but more of an in theatre anti aircraft capability: From the article:


"During the April 5 briefing, industry officials were informed the system would also be able to target cruise missiles, helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft. The new system wouldn’t be capable of tackling larger weapons, such as theatre ballistic missiles or intercontinental ballistic missiles."

I don't get it, it seems unlikely that we'd see helicopters and fixed wing air craft over the arctic itself.

Instead we'd see standoff bombers that stay away from that kind of defense and launch long range hypersonic cruise missiles, or sub launched cruise missiles. Or even sub launched depressed shot ballistic missile launches.

Instead of Canada investing in a fixed in place air defense network, why don't they actually invest in what Canada doesn't have which is mobile battlefield anti-air defense systems that can protect our troops on the ground. The fact that we currently have 0 capability to protect our troops from air strikes is amazingly stupid.

[Julio]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I don't get it, it seems unlikely that we'd see helicopters and fixed wing air craft over the arctic itself.

Instead we'd see standoff bombers that stay away from that kind of defense and launch long range hypersonic cruise missiles, or sub launched cruise missiles. Or even sub launched depressed shot ballistic missile launches.

Instead of Canada investing in a fixed in place air defense network, why don't they actually invest in what Canada doesn't have which is mobile battlefield anti-air defense systems that can protect our troops on the ground. The fact that we currently have 0 capability to protect our troops from air strikes is amazingly stupid.

From what I saw Cap, that is what they are procuring. And agreed, not having anti air protection for our troops is stupid...even worse than the last of modern anti tank weapons that this crisis has also shown.

[CaptainCrunch]

Ah it doesn't matter. When they state a billion for a unified anti-missile, anti-air network its BS, unless the system is built around dudes with AK-47's standing on hills shooting at stuff, while using the eyeball mark 5 radar set.


This is no different then the announcements to buy fighters, or ships, or boots or sleeping bags or guns or submarines. We'll do it poorly, we'll end up giving a bunch of money to Bombardier or a government friendly consulting or manufacturing firm like Bombardier or Lavalin who will massively under deliver, go way over budget, line their pockets, and then we'll have a senate hearing on why this failed so badly and we ended up with a anti-air system that was built in 1962 by Moldova.

[Madman]

[CaptainCrunch]

Just disgracful. We expect them to die for us and out country, and we can't house them or take care of them.


https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/milita...isis-1.5915173

OTTAWA - An email encouraging members of the Canadian Armed Forces to consider contacting Habitat for Humanity if they can't find affordable housing is casting a spotlight on a growing challenge facing many military personnel and their families.
The email was sent by a senior officer at 19 Wing Comox to other members at the Royal Canadian Air Force base on northern Vancouver Island, which is home to the military's search-and-rescue school as well as several squadrons of aircraft.
"Further to our discussion this morning, one potential housing option for our folks is Habitat for Humanity," said the email dated May 5. "Should this be of interest to any of your personnel, please have them review the information located here."

But the email has highlighted growing complaints and concerns about the impact that skyrocketing home and rental prices are having on members of Canada's Armed Forces -- and Ottawa's repeated failure to provide enough military housing.
Chief of the defence staff Gen. Wayne Eyre warned last month that his troops were feeling the bite of escalating housing prices and other costs of living as a result of their unique lifestyles, which include constant moves throughout their careers.
At the same time, Eyre lamented a shortage of military housing, saying: "Now we're somewhere in the neighbourhood of 4,000 to 6,000 units short on our bases, which is also accentuating the housing problem."
Online forums are rife with Armed Forces members discussing the current housing crunch, with some on the verge of moving desperate for advice on how to find affordable accommodation in markets where even rental prices are sky high.

[speede5]

Base housing is a joke as they have to price it according to the local economy and to no surprise people opted to live off base more and then the military tore down lots of q’s because they were vacant.

It’s so frustration that our military isn’t allowed to take care of their own. Having spend time on American bases they really know how to make up for some of these issues.

[CaptainCrunch]

Arbour report is released.


400 pages and 50 recommendations. The main ones



No basis for the Military to have jurisdiction over sexual crimes investigations, that is being handed off to civillian law enforcement.



appoint a external civillian monitor to monitor investigations and track and hold the government and military accountable.


reform the sexual response center.


Goes hard after the Military colleges as a breeding ground for the behaviors.


Give free legal assistance to victims.

[CaptainCrunch]

https://www.nationalnewswatch.com/20...nBJddy.twitter

OTTAWA — The trial of a federal public servant accused of leaking cabinet secrets about a shipbuilding project is set to begin this morning.
Matthew Matchett was charged with one count of breach of trust in February 2019 for allegedly leaking secret cabinet documents about a contract between the federal government and Chantier Davie shipyard in Quebec in November 2015.
That is when the new Liberal government decided to hold off finalizing a contract with Davie to lease a temporary supply ship for the navy, a deal they later approved.
Matchett was suspended from his job in the federal procurement department in 2018. His lawyer has previously said his client intends to plead not guilty, and his trial by judge and jury is expected to run for several weeks.
In 2017, retired vice-admiral Mark Norman was suspended as the military's second-in-command and later charged with breach of trust in 2018 over allegations he leaked cabinet secrets about the shipbuilding project.
Norman pleaded not guilty and Crown prosecutors eventually stayed the charge in May 2019, saying that new evidence they'd received from Norman's defence team had led them to conclude there was no reasonable chance of a conviction.
This report by The Canadian Press was first published June 6, 2022.

[CaptainCrunch]

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...x=1654789428-1

OTTAWA — The Crown has dropped its case against a federal bureaucrat who was accused of leaking secret cabinet documents about a $700-million shipbuilding contract.



Matthew Matchett walked out of an Ottawa courthouse a free man after Justice Hugh McLean informed the jury hearing the breach of trust case about the Crown’s decision.

The surprise development came on the fourth day of what was expected to be a four-week trial.

The Crown’s case fell apart after its prime witness, longtime lobbyist Brian Mersereau, testified that he could not remember if Matchett had provided him with a secret memo to cabinet.

Crown prosecutor Mark Covan’s decision to stay the charge today comes more than three years after the Crown’s case against vice-admiral Mark Norman was also dropped.