08-01-2023, 07:46 PM
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#11001
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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I want Trump to go to jail on state charges AND win 2024 just to see what that'd be like.
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08-01-2023, 07:46 PM
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#11002
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by OldDutch
He won’t and can’t. Sociopaths aren’t insane by legal definition. Plus he has better odds taking the conviction, and getting himself or DeSantis to pardon him.
Given the laser focus of the charges this appears to be a play to trial and convict prior to the election.
Then its up to the public to choose punishment
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He is betting on winning the election which if he wins he can make it go away. If he loses I could see him move all his assets to a country with no extradition agreement with the US and fly away. Or course he will cry they stole the election again too.
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08-01-2023, 07:50 PM
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#11003
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
I want Trump to go to jail on state charges AND win 2024 just to see what that'd be like.
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He won't go to jail. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like but I don't think there is any way Donald Trump ends up in office again. If he wins he will get bumped off. There is too much at stake to let that lunatic run things again.
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08-01-2023, 08:02 PM
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#11004
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
He won't go to jail. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like but I don't think there is any way Donald Trump ends up in office again. If he wins he will get bumped off. There is too much at stake to let that lunatic run things again.
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Assisinated? That's assinine
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08-01-2023, 08:18 PM
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#11005
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Assisinated? That's assinine
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Oooh...so close. The word we were looking for was marvelous......marvelous.
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08-01-2023, 08:23 PM
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#11006
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sliver
I ####ing love how the entire human race made a conscious decision to not remember that guy's actual name.
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He looks like a Lenny or something.
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08-01-2023, 08:27 PM
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#11007
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Franchise Player
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If you read the indictment, it's like 40 pages of just people explaining to him that all his claims about election fraud are false, and then him ignoring that and just repeating them ad nauseum lime he can't hear words that don't align with his preferred version of reality. It's quintessential Trump.
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08-01-2023, 08:30 PM
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#11008
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Originally Posted by SutterBrother
We got em this time!
This time FOR SURE!
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This cliche/meme makes it sound like he keeps getting exonerated. He's generally lost every legal battle/impeachment so far, and every criminal case is still pending trial.
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08-01-2023, 08:51 PM
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#11009
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First Line Centre
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So what are the chances that any of these 3 cases are decided before the election date? And if Trump wins the general election, what if a case is decided against him before inauguration? And finally, after inauguration, can he simply pardon himself and make this all go away (legally at least)?
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08-01-2023, 09:27 PM
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#11010
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
So what are the chances that any of these 3 cases are decided before the election date? And if Trump wins the general election, what if a case is decided against him before inauguration? And finally, after inauguration, can he simply pardon himself and make this all go away (legally at least)?
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No president can pardon state crimes, so the charges in Georgia (that are coming), and the New York tax charges are important.
But also remember that a pardon means that he would admit being guilty.
Being guilty of many of these charges should mean he's ineligible to run. Guilty of these treason related charges, and being allowed to be president? I suspect that its not going to work that way.
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08-01-2023, 09:38 PM
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#11011
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Trump won't see jail time. He'll make a plea deal at the last minute and it will preclude him from running for office ever again. He'll get to keep all his PAC money as part of the deal, but he'll spend the rest of his days hitting shanks at Mar-a-lago. Everybody wins and everybody loses.
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08-01-2023, 10:01 PM
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#11012
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by Sliver
I ####ing love how the entire human race made a conscious decision to not remember that guy's actual name.
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Rupert Pupkin.
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08-01-2023, 10:16 PM
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#11013
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All I can get
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Trump could pull a Putin maneuver and install a proxy candidate of his choosing. It won't be DeSantis.
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08-01-2023, 10:31 PM
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#11014
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
No president can pardon state crimes, so the charges in Georgia (that are coming), and the New York tax charges are important.
But also remember that a pardon means that he would admit being guilty.
Being guilty of many of these charges should mean he's ineligible to run. Guilty of these treason related charges, and being allowed to be president? I suspect that its not going to work that way.
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of course you would have the spectacle of a sitting President who couldnt go to either Georgia or New York for fear of arrest but he could still avoid jail that way
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08-01-2023, 10:51 PM
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#11015
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
No president can pardon state crimes, so the charges in Georgia (that are coming), and the New York tax charges are important.
But also remember that a pardon means that he would admit being guilty.
Being guilty of many of these charges should mean he's ineligible to run. Guilty of these treason related charges, and being allowed to be president? I suspect that its not going to work that way.
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There is no law barring him from being president if found guilty in any of this,
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08-01-2023, 11:07 PM
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#11016
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Originally Posted by Whynotnow
There is no law barring him from being president if found guilty in any of this,
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What about the 14th amendment?
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No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
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08-01-2023, 11:40 PM
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#11017
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by DownInFlames
What about the 14th amendment?
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My research on it says it’s unlikely, first of all he’s not being charged with treason. I think also that it would have to be done state by state by getting him off the ballot, so good luck with that. Hard to believe this is even a question
, how the smoking remnant of the Republican Party is still supporting a guy like this is quite the mess.
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08-02-2023, 09:00 AM
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#11018
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Trump won't see jail time. He'll make a plea deal at the last minute and it will preclude him from running for office ever again. He'll get to keep all his PAC money as part of the deal, but he'll spend the rest of his days hitting shanks at Mar-a-lago. Everybody wins and everybody loses.
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I don't think it even gets to the point where there's a verdict before the 2024 election. That would be pretty speedy for the U.S. judicial system, no?
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08-02-2023, 09:08 AM
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#11019
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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Lol this only makes Trump stronger.
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08-02-2023, 09:11 AM
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#11020
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First Line Centre
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Fitch lowered US credit rating to AA+ from AAA.
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