09-18-2021, 12:15 PM
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Fearmongerer
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If he plays 44 games he will become the all-time leader among NHL defensemen.
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09-18-2021, 01:11 PM
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Franchise Player
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I look forward to Brad signing Chara next year on the eve of the season opener, Chara being undeniably effective, but retiring mid season due to an injury that likely would’ve been avoided had he had the benefit of a training camp.
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09-18-2021, 03:18 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I look forward to Brad signing Chara next year on the eve of the season opener, Chara being undeniably effective, but retiring mid season due to an injury that likely would’ve been avoided had he had the benefit of a training camp.
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You say this like Jagr wasn’t the decision maker in that regard. Players hate camp. Jagr decided to skip it.
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09-18-2021, 08:44 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
You say this like Jagr wasn’t the decision maker in that regard. Players hate camp. Jagr decided to skip it.
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When was that confirmed? I had never heard that, but had heard that Brad wanted to wait until later to sign him, making sure he had everything else completed first on the roster.
Last edited by jayswin; 09-18-2021 at 08:47 PM.
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09-18-2021, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
You say this like Jagr wasn’t the decision maker in that regard. Players hate camp. Jagr decided to skip it.
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I will need a citation on this - Treliving had a bunch of college free agents like Foo who he thought might take a spot. Poirier/Klimchuk would have still been in the mix as well.
It was clear from his actions at the time, Treliving wanted one of the kids to seize a top-9 role.
They didn’t, we signed Jagr. He even said at his press conference that he wasn’t going to he ready right away, that he needed time to get in shape.
That’s not something you say if “skipping camp” was the reason you didn’t sign until October.
I don’t know why Jagr wouldn’t have just come to some sort of understanding about his training camp regimen, Rather than skip it entirely.
Everyone knew he was 45 - it would’ve been entirely reasonable to say “Jags is getting every other day off because he’s ####in Jags, anyone got a problem with that? No? Good.”
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09-18-2021, 10:25 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Oh, it’s entirely my opinion, based on the Jagr talk all summer, plus . But its clear that whether he was in camp or not, he wasn’t in shape. And camp hasn’t been for getting in shape for 20 years. It’s funny that he said in July that year he was looking for a spot, but later admitted he didn’t stay in shape.
Treliving did say, however, that it was the kids not impressing that delayed things, whether you want to believe that or not. The biggest speculation in the media was that he overpriced himself until the eve of the season.
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09-18-2021, 10:51 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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The Isles are easy to cheer for. Just a massive Trotz fan and the style they employ.
Definitely my second team if I ever had one.
The adoption of Boston here only felt earned for a few years after KOing the whales. Kind of don't care about them any more, and Marchand is a butthead.
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09-18-2021, 10:58 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Happy for Chara.
He's nowhere near the same player he was a few years ago, but he can still play and can be a valuable, imposing player in a limited role.
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09-19-2021, 02:53 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
If he plays 44 games he will become the all-time leader among NHL defensemen.
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Wow, that is such an awesome record about to (hopefully) be broken. Glad he's playing yet another season for the team that drafted him. Isles have been my 2nd favorite team for almost 2 decades so I'll definitely be tuning into more of their games this season.
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09-19-2021, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Oh, it’s entirely my opinion, based on the Jagr talk all summer, plus . But its clear that whether he was in camp or not, he wasn’t in shape. And camp hasn’t been for getting in shape for 20 years. It’s funny that he said in July that year he was looking for a spot, but later admitted he didn’t stay in shape.
Treliving did say, however, that it was the kids not impressing that delayed things, whether you want to believe that or not. The biggest speculation in the media was that he overpriced himself until the eve of the season.
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Jagr is known to be one of those crazy dedicated fitness guys, and has been for years. I am sure he did everything that he could do to stay in shape, but camp is camp. He really needed that. I do wish that the Flames signed him earlier, or that he took longer to practice and slowly went in and out of the lineup, as I thought he was mostly good (definitely not vintage 'one of the best in history', but still a solid player who did more to help than to hurt).
I will always be sad about how it ended up here for him, but happy that he was here at all.
Chara I would take next season in a heart beat too - he can be effective off the 3rd pairing, 2nd PP with his bomb, and probably is the toughest guy in the league still. Plus, he is smart enough that he can make up for his lack of footspeed. I bet he does well-enough on the Islanders this year, and that he can squeeze-out another year or two after this. He - like Jagr - is also one of those fitness freaks.
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09-19-2021, 02:59 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
Jagr is known to be one of those crazy dedicated fitness guys, and has been for years. I am sure he did everything that he could do to stay in shape, but camp is camp. He really needed that. I do wish that the Flames signed him earlier, or that he took longer to practice and slowly went in and out of the lineup, as I thought he was mostly good (definitely not vintage 'one of the best in history', but still a solid player who did more to help than to hurt).
I will always be sad about how it ended up here for him, but happy that he was here at all.
Chara I would take next season in a heart beat too - he can be effective off the 3rd pairing, 2nd PP with his bomb, and probably is the toughest guy in the league still. Plus, he is smart enough that he can make up for his lack of footspeed. I bet he does well-enough on the Islanders this year, and that he can squeeze-out another year or two after this. He - like Jagr - is also one of those fitness freaks.
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Jagr admitted he didn’t stay in shape that summer. His excuse was he didn’t know if anyone was going to sign him at all.
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09-21-2021, 08:55 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I look forward to Brad signing Chara next year on the eve of the season opener, Chara being undeniably effective, but retiring mid season due to an injury that likely would’ve been avoided had he had the benefit of a training camp.
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Speaking of this. I really wish they would’ve signed Iginla instead of Jagr that season.
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