09-17-2021, 01:36 PM
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#281
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Unfortunately, the sad truth of your first two sentences does not flow well into your conclusion. There is no good (or bad) way for Alberta to be heard and influence Canadian federal politics under the circumstances. None. We are irrelevant in a big picture and we are made more and more irrelevant by the Eastern politicians siphoning tax dollars towards all sorts of meaningless climate action initiatives and slowly killing the oil and gas industry. All federal parties are doing it now without exception.
Looks like the only answer is separation and self-determination.
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What was that about the first part of your post not flowing well into your conclusion?
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09-17-2021, 01:57 PM
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#282
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TorqueDog
What was that about the first part of your post not flowing well into your conclusion?
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I know. Not much optimism there.
Perhaps, another option is a strong Western Party a la Bloc, which theoretically would have an ability to at least support or not support policies of any ruling party as long as they positively affect the West. But how realistic is a possibility of BC and Alberta interests aligning well?
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09-17-2021, 02:20 PM
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#283
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Unfortunately, the sad truth of your first two sentences does not flow well into your conclusion. There is no good (or bad) way for Alberta to be heard and influence Canadian federal politics under the circumstances. None. We are irrelevant in a big picture and we are made more and more irrelevant by the Eastern politicians siphoning tax dollars towards all sorts of meaningless climate action initiatives and slowly killing the oil and gas industry. All federal parties are doing it now without exception.
Looks like the only answer is separation and self-determination.
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To the extent that the voices of Albertans are actually irrelevant in Canadian federal politics (personally, I don't think this is remotely true), I expect that it has a lot more to do with the fact that views like the bolded are increasingly inconsistent with the views of the vast majority of Canadians than "Eastern politicians siphoning tax dollars" and trying to kill the oil and gas industry.
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09-17-2021, 03:51 PM
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#284
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Mailed my vote in earlier this week for the Liberals. I don't believe O'Toole policies would be much different from Ford's in Ontario or Kenney's in Alberta. He's been trying to appear more progressive and I think has done a decent job of it, but I simply don't believe him.
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09-17-2021, 10:34 PM
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#285
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 110
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A friend in a western province said he couldn’t vote for any of the parties but decided for his mail in to write in the name of who he thought was the most attractive member of The Bloc. I thought that was a different approach than the usual “none of the above”.
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09-18-2021, 12:24 PM
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#286
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FurnaceFace
A friend in a western province said he couldn’t vote for any of the parties but decided for his mail in to write in the name of who he thought was the most attractive member of The Bloc. I thought that was a different approach than the usual “none of the above”.
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So in other words he voted for Trudeau. That’s fine if you are big Trudeau fan like you friend obviously is.
I might vote liberal too, but I have the courage to actually mark that on a ballot.
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09-18-2021, 07:17 PM
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#287
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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What kind of psychopath slaps a poster on your (unclean, shutup I've been busy with another reno) front door???
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09-18-2021, 08:03 PM
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#288
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: not lurking
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Originally Posted by Sr. Mints
Anecdotally, Siglar signs are all over Calgary Confederation. Even the energy mecca of Rosedale has...well, some
Far more support than i expected to see. And i'm not talking about the carpet bombing at condederation park, on boulevards, etc
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The sign battle definitely looks more like the 2015 election where Matt Grant narrowly lost, rather than the 2019 blowout.
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09-18-2021, 08:07 PM
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#289
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Scoring Winger
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Im voting Rhino as well, I'm a bit jealous of Slava lawn sign
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09-18-2021, 08:17 PM
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#290
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by vennegoor of hesselink
Im voting Rhino as well, I'm a bit jealous of Slava lawn sign
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I saw two tiny signs along our road for Vanessa Wang yesterday, and today they disappeared. I don't even know how to get them.
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09-19-2021, 01:59 PM
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#291
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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No Rhino here, we do have a Marxist-Leninst candidate that clearly won the candidates debate. Like they did better than all the other candidates combined.
No good options for me.
Our PPC candidate makes other PPC candidates look like sane intellectuals.
Our Green candidate hasn't been in the riding, lives 4000kms away and is literally just a name on the ballot.
Our NDP candidate is a nice guy who didn't do well in the debate but wasn't God awful.
I really don't like our Liberal candidate.
I can't vote for the current iteration of the CPC.
Might be a coin flip tomorrow?
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09-19-2021, 02:03 PM
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#292
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout
No Rhino here, we do have a Marxist-Leninst candidate that clearly won the candidates debate. Like they did better than all the other candidates combined.
No good options for me.
Our PPC candidate makes other PPC candidates look like sane intellectuals.
Our Green candidate hasn't been in the riding, lives 4000kms away and is literally just a name on the ballot.
Our NDP candidate is a nice guy who didn't do well in the debate but wasn't God awful.
I really don't like our Liberal candidate.
I can't vote for the current iteration of the CPC.
Might be a coin flip tomorrow?
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Same in my riding. The lawn signs only recently popped up a few days ago and there is no name on it, just 'Green Party.'
Invigorating stuff.
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09-19-2021, 02:11 PM
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#293
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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Originally Posted by Locke
Same in my riding. The lawn signs only recently popped up a few days ago and there is no name on it, just 'Green Party.'
Invigorating stuff.
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Ha. We don't even have that.
I'd be curious to know how many people would have Marxist-Leninst signs after the debate.
A local meme page posted this the morning after the debate
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09-19-2021, 02:25 PM
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#294
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CP's Fraser Crane
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We have a really strong Maverick party candidate in our area.
Our conservative candidate will win handily again either way. She got over 28,000 votes and the next place didn’t even get 4000
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09-20-2021, 11:47 AM
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#295
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Franchise Player
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Just got back from the polling station. It's located in a +55 building so a long lineup of elderly people to vote (go figure) but they all had a common poll which was different than mine and since nobody was in line for my poll I got moved to the front of the line. In out in about 5 minutes.
I went back on forth on my decision before deciding CPC. I've voted PC, UPC, Reform and Independent in the past depending on what message I felt I needed to convey. While not happy with all the CPC stands for I cannot in good conscience condone what the Liberals have done (and not done) for the past 6 years and wanted to send as strong a voice as possible which this time is the CPC.
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09-20-2021, 11:51 AM
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#296
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Can we get a who did you vote for poll today to see how CP compares to the actual vote. please?
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09-20-2021, 12:08 PM
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#297
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
Can we get a who did you vote for poll today to see how CP compares to the actual vote. please?
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Based on the last couple pages, it's gonna be Rhino in a landslide lol.
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09-20-2021, 12:12 PM
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#298
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Franchise Player
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NDP, not because I like them but because they didn’t do anything morally disqualifying.
This was the most depressing vote I think I have cast.
Glad mine didn’t matter.
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09-20-2021, 12:16 PM
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#299
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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https://votecompass.cbc.ca/canada
This is surprisingly accurate and showed how I hold viewpoints that are typically considered in opposition to each other. IE: you can be pro-pipeline because that makes logical and economic sense and still want to invest into carbon capture and emission restrictions and green technologies.
I scored 50% on every party and dead center in the spectrum because I care about issues logically and not politically.
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09-20-2021, 12:43 PM
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#300
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Franchise Player
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Guys I'm jaded. Who should I vote for in Calgary Shepard? My election issues are climate change action, pandemic, economy in that order.
My vote compass says 59% conservative, 56% Liberal, 55% NDP, 49% Green and I wont even mention PPC because I won't vote for them under any circumstance. (it was by far the lowest anyway)
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