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Old 09-17-2021, 09:32 AM   #161
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I was also going to say I've never watched ET although I have seen bits and pieces of it when it was on TV but never watched the whole thing from start to finish.

There's a lot of movies mentioned here and other I haven't seen. I think my movie watching dropped off when video stores disappeared as I haven't really gotten on board with streaming services.
I still watch movies and go to the theater a few times a year but catching up is kind of on my to do list when I get my home theater set up one day.
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I was also going to say I've never watched ET although I have seen bits and pieces of it when it was on TV but never watched the whole thing from start to finish.

There's a lot of movies mentioned here and other I haven't seen. I think my movie watching dropped off when video stores disappeared as I haven't really gotten on board with streaming services.
I still watch movies and go to the theater a few times a year but catching up is kind of on my to do list when I get my home theater set up one day.
Man i still kinda miss going to Video and Sound on a Friday night and spending an hour to pick up 2 VHS tapes and wondering why anyone bought a Beta...
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I’ve never seen any of the Fast and Furious movies except the one with the 25 mile runway at the end. Yeah….not my cup of tea for sure.
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I’ve never seen any of the Fast and Furious movies except the one with the 25 mile runway at the end. Yeah….not my cup of tea for sure.
Don't worry, you are not missing much. Terrible acting, terrible storylines, terrible cars. I stopped after the second.
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Actually, crucifixion was not a standard punishment for thieves and the like in the Roman world. They had fines, flogging, and banishment for that. Crucifixion was a deliberately cruel and public form of execution reserved for rebels, dangerous slaves, and other enemies of the state. It couldn’t be carried out on a Roman citizen.

If there was a lot of crucifixion going on around Jerusalem at the time of Christ it was because Judea was in a state of simmering rebellion, not because the Romans routinely crucified common criminals.

Anyway, if we’re talking about Biblical movies Life of Brian still can’t be beat.
Except that the vast majority of what we would now call 'Romans' were slaves or ex slaves or just not Roman (which is why crucifixion was also used to kill the lower classes in general eventually) and while there were other forms of execution it was an extremely common execution, Jesus was crucified with 2 other bog standard ordinary criminals.

If a slave killed his master then every slave in the household, including women and children, were crucified, I'm not arguing it wasnt a painful horrific death, just that the idea there was something unique about Jesus's pain is ridiculous, there just wasnt.

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Old 09-17-2021, 12:15 PM   #166
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Don't worry, you are not missing much. Terrible acting, terrible storylines, terrible cars. I stopped after the second.
So then you don't know what you've missed?


F&F are what they are, silly popcorn action movies, and they execute it fairly decently(considering the genre). I'd never go out of my way to watch them ,but I've seen most of them at some point or other. It's fun to hate on them, but they aren't any worse than most of that type of stuff.
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Except that the vast majority of what we would now call 'Romans' were slaves or ex slaves or just not Roman (which is why crucifixion was also used to kill the lower classes in general eventually) and while there were other forms of execution it was an extremely common execution, Jesus was crucified with 2 other bog standard ordinary criminals.

If a slave killed his master then every slave in the household, including women and children, were crucified, I'm not arguing it wasnt a painful horrific death, just that the idea there was something unique about Jesus's pain is ridiculous, there just wasnt.
I haven’t seen the movie, mainly because I don’t like torture flicks and I don’t find the subject that interesting, but my understanding was that the crucifiction went above and beyond normal ones. The walk of shame and beatings before, the use of nails, vinegar in the wounds, crown of thorns etc. I don’t think those aspects were normal practice.
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I haven’t seen the movie, mainly because I don’t like torture flicks and I don’t find the subject that interesting, but my understanding was that the crucifiction went above and beyond normal ones. The walk of shame and beatings before, the use of nails, vinegar in the wounds, crown of thorns etc. I don’t think those aspects were normal practice.
I think the crown of thorns was the only real difference between Jesus's death and the two schmoes next to him, in fact Jesus died quite quickly and so would have had a reletively merciful death compared to most, it could take days to die on the cross but the spear to Jesus's ribs was in fact a mercy blow that meant he died quickly
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Anyway, the Prince of Egypt is an honest to God masterpiece, and y’all should check it out.
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Anyway, the Prince of Egypt is an honest to God masterpiece, and y’all should check it out.
If we're talking about animated masterpieces that not enough people have seen, I submit The Iron Giant for your approval.

It was even mentioned in Ted Lasso for the team's "movie night".

https://twitter.com/user/status/1352229137277181954
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If we're talking about animated masterpieces that not enough people have seen, I submit The Iron Giant for your approval.

It was even mentioned in Ted Lasso for the team's "movie night".

https://twitter.com/user/status/1352229137277181954
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Don't worry, you are not missing much. Terrible acting, terrible storylines, terrible cars. I stopped after the second.
Two more than me.
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I’ve never seen any of the Fast and Furious movies except the one with the 25 mile runway at the end. Yeah….not my cup of tea for sure.
They're essentially comedies at this point.

They're actually better comedies than most comedies in part because I think leading up to this last entry the movies actually took themselves seriously, all while dropping porn script worthy one liners and taking a deuce on the laws of physics.

They do things with cars that's reminiscent of a 4 year old playing with his hotwheels.

It's hilarious high budget garbage.

My friend and I made a joke after the 8th entry that next they would go to space.

Lo and behold............
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I've seen several FF movies, don't remember any of them.
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I have watched the first few minutes of the first FF movie.
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Don't worry, you are not missing much. Terrible acting, terrible storylines, terrible cars. I stopped after the second.
This is hilarious.

How can you of all people not love the F&F movies?? They're about Family!!
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Joker is probably the least comic book, comic book movie out there. They could have changed a couple things and it wouldn't have even had a comic book connection. I thought it was a really well made and acted movie. However it didn't really do anything for me, not my kind of movie, just a personal preference thing I suppose.
This is the thing.

Joker was an excellent movie in all aspects. I really enjoyed it.

But it really had nothing to do with the Joker. That was just an interesting bit of a marketing twist to make it appeal to a broader audience.

The main character could pretty literally have been 'any mentally ill person at all' and the movie wouldnt have skipped a beat.

That was just the tagline to sucker people into seeing it.

Still a very good movie, but the 'Joker' element is eminently unimportant.
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Old 09-20-2021, 12:35 PM   #178
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This is the thing.

Joker was an excellent movie in all aspects. I really enjoyed it.

But it really had nothing to do with the Joker. That was just an interesting bit of a marketing twist to make it appeal to a broader audience.

The main character could pretty literally have been 'any mentally ill person at all' and the movie wouldnt have skipped a beat.

That was just the tagline to sucker people into seeing it.

Still a very good movie, but the 'Joker' element is eminently unimportant.
I don't know what the "joker element" means. Unless you mean Batman/superheroes, in which case, that was entirely by design. It was definitely intentional to show a "real world" joker that is free from the inherent silliness that superhero movies typically entail.

Even if we were to just take the Batman comics, it ranges from wildly unrealistic in every conceivable way to completely down to earth crime drama. All Joker did was swing that pendulum in the opposite direction from what we're used to seeing.

Even Nolan's first Batman movie seems pretty darn realistic compared to Batman 89. I'd actually argue Joker and Batman Begins are closer on that spectrum than Begins and '89.

For example, this joker has almost nothing in common with this joker, except for the name and broad character design.
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I can barely remember the plot of Joker. It's basically Joaquin Phoenix epic acting the movie.
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The Joker is basically a Taxi Driver reboot. As is usually the case, the original is better.
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