Charlottesville VA - WTF???

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Still can't believe you can belong to a white supremacist group, and attend a rally, armed, in a first world country.

I still can't believe racism is still an extreme problem. How in the hell have we not evolved past that crap?

[killer_carlson]

I was curious how Fox News would report this. To my surprise, they are drawing a line between the right and the alt-right.

Republicans coming out against the KKK and nutcases in Charlottesville


“Mr. President - we must call evil by its name,” Colorado Republican Sen. Cory Gardner tweeted. “These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...ionalists.html

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

why do people keep insisting trump is a racist? he isnt, theres no real evidence of it. he benefits of racism, sure. ill grant that hands down.

Fox News: Not racist, but number one with racists.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

Trump likes the headlines and glomed on to soemthign stupid to get his name out. hes also a liar,

So your defense of Trump is that he isn't really a racist, he just says racist things to grab the spotlight? Is there a meaningful difference between an actual racist and someone with a well-known national profile who spouts racist views to increase his media exposure? Ponder that question for a moment.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

So your defense of Trump is that he isn't really a racist, he just says racist things to grab the spotlight? Is there a meaningful difference between an actual racist and someone with a well-known national profile who spouts racist views to increase his media exposure? Ponder that question for a moment.

Absolutely none, when the goal is to keep running a presidency that benefits these people.

[Buck Murdock]

Originally Posted by Red Ice Player

As I've asked every Trump supporter who denies that Trump is a racist, please explain birtherism to me. You are aware that Trump has been the most prominent proponent of birtherism, right? Do you also know that Trump never apologized for it? Now explain to me how birtherism is not a racist belief and movement. Just so you know, I've never gotten an explanation. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance.

OK, wasn't that Trump asking for Obama to produce his birth certificate due to the controversy surrounding his place of birth? I don't consider that to be racism, because his father is Kenyan, right? I'd say that's asinine and disrespectful, but I don't see the racism. BTW you don't need to include your last 2 sentences, it adds nothing to the discussion.

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

Absolute rubbish.

[Red Ice Player]

Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

OK, wasn't that Trump asking for Obama to produce his birth certificate due to the controversy surrounding his place of birth? I don't consider that to be racism, because his father is Kenyan, right? I'd say that's asinine and disrespectful, but I don't see the racism. BTW you don't need to include your last 2 sentences, it adds nothing to the discussion.

Correct, the last two sentences were not necessary. However, your lame dismissal of the whole birtherism fiasco does not make me inclined to take my statements back.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

BTW you don't need to include your last 2 sentences, it adds nothing to the discussion.

You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by octothorp

You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance.

This is exactly what is wrong with politics now. People can't discuss without the name calling and spending more time slamming the other person instead of building arguments and them listening to the reply.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

So your defense of Trump is that he isn't really a racist, he just says racist things to grab the spotlight? Is there a meaningful difference between an actual racist and someone with a well-known national profile who spouts racist views to increase his media exposure? Ponder that question for a moment.

whoa, slow down. my defense of trump? lets not get crazy here.

2nd, what has he said specifically thats racist? besides the mexican thing. lol. ok fine.

[puffnstuff]

And where did the controversy surrounding Obamas birthplace start? With conspiracy theorist racists.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

why do people keep insisting trump is a racist? he isnt, theres no real evidence of it. he benefits of racism, sure. ill grant that hands down.

Yes there is. http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-racist-meme/

[Buck Murdock]

Originally Posted by Red Ice Player

Correct, the last two sentences were not necessary. However, your lame dismissal of the whole birtherism fiasco does not make me inclined to take my statements back.

Sorry if you thought it was lame, but that was my perception of that event. I've never heard it called racism till now. I believe Obama is the first President in over 100 years to have a foreign born father, so I didn't think it was a huge stretch for that to become an issue, especially when it dragged on for so long. Please explain how you perceived it to be racist, I'm interested.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

This is exactly what is wrong with politics now. People can't discuss without the name calling and spending more time slamming the other person instead of building arguments and them listening to the reply.

It is, and unfortunately the other problem at the same time is that you can't call anyone out for what their opinion is anymore without retorts about respecting opinions and such. (Not directed your response, just adding to your point).

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

OK, wasn't that Trump asking for Obama to produce his birth certificate due to the controversy surrounding his place of birth? I don't consider that to be racism, because his father is Kenyan, right? I'd say that's asinine and disrespectful, but I don't see the racism. BTW you don't need to include your last 2 sentences, it adds nothing to the discussion.

Wow.

Ok, I'm trying not to offend you by saying this, but you are obtuse if you believe that questioning the birthplace of the first black president wasn't racially motivated. ESPECIALLY after Trump wouldn't drop it even AFTER Obama provided his birth certificate. I didn't see him question any other president's place of birth in all his time on Earth. He may not have even come up with it, he might have heard it from one of his insane alt-right media guys that he loves so much. However, he did believe it quickly and in the face of contradictory evidence. Believing the worst that you hear about a black man, and ignoring all the other stuff.

That's racism my friend. Don't be afraid to call things for what they are.

[Buck Murdock]

Originally Posted by octothorp

You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance. You support a racist. To deny this is just willful ignorance.

Why not post something insightful so as to be taken seriously?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Central Park Five is probably a clearer sign of Trump's racism. He still thinks they're guilty even after being cleared through DNA evidence.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Central Park Five is probably a clearer sign of Trump's racism. He still thinks they're guilty even after being cleared through DNA evidence.

Agree the Obama thing could have been motivated by just disagreeing with his politics, and childishly discrediting his legitimacy was his way of lashing out at him.

[Krovikan]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Central Park Five is probably a clearer sign of Trump's racism. He still thinks they're guilty even after being cleared through DNA evidence.

Or hiring Alt Right into the White House, or the White House refusing to acknowledge the Nazi genocide of Jews, or claiming the issue at this protest isn't white Supremacists, or going on Alt Right podcasts, or calling all mexican illegal imegrants rapists and killers, etc. Why is their even a question of Trump being a racist? This is a known fact.

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