My range dropped from about ~430km to ~310ish today in -19 when I started it up, based on yesterday's driving I think
Still more than enough to drive around Calgary a bunch but I probably would have to find a DC fast charger in Red Deer if I needed to make a comfortable trip to Edmonton.
I think gas is still the way to go for road trips for a long time. Maybe we'll see a modernized return of the Chevy Starcraft Van style as EV owners get dedicated Vanlife vehicles for travel. Drive, charge while you sleep, drive some more. No way people are gonna wanna stop in motels to wait for a 7kW charge.
I think most places in the world don't get to -19 and this is a fairly unique problem. For most people, it's just not going to be an issue
I think most places in the world don't get to -19 and this is a fairly unique problem. For most people, it's just not going to be an issue
But it is still an issue that is on peoples minds and whether they’re going to buy a car that can do everything or onw where they’re limited to daily commuting. -19 isn’t that uncommon either of for a lot of Canada and northern US states. Maybe west coast and interior BC are okay, but I wouldn’t call -19 unique.
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For any kind of road trip, you really need the yellow ones on that map.
Still needs to be more of those.
There are more level three charging stations on that map now than pre-pandemic (i.e. last time I looked). There are more in the works for communities in the AB-2 corridor
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(I never had the heart to correct her)
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I think most places in the world don't get to -19 and this is a fairly unique problem. For most people, it's just not going to be an issue
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But it is still an issue that is on peoples minds and whether they’re going to buy a car that can do everything or onw where they’re limited to daily commuting. -19 isn’t that uncommon either of for a lot of Canada and northern US states. Maybe west coast and interior BC are okay, but I wouldn’t call -19 unique.
It does become a huge issue for Canadians if the federal government mandates EV's or the banning of ICE engines. Without a practical alternative a significant chunk of our population could be affected.
I'm leaning towards a hybrid for my next vehicle, probably not a plug-in. I just don't think we have the full infrastructure ready for charging yet. I envision going to visit my parents who wouldn't have a charger or camping or snowboarding in the mountains, and looking for somewhere to charge and then have to wait to charge sounds like such a hassle. Not to mention the cold snaps we get.
It does seem like every auto maker is bringing some new form of alternative powertrain to market though, thats pretty awesome. I know its only a matter of time where there are just as many charge stations as gas stations, but that could be a decade or 2 away.
I'm leaning towards a hybrid for my next vehicle, probably not a plug-in. I just don't think we have the full infrastructure ready for charging yet. I envision going to visit my parents who wouldn't have a charger or camping or snowboarding in the mountains, and looking for somewhere to charge and then have to wait to charge sounds like such a hassle. Not to mention the cold snaps we get.
It does seem like every auto maker is bringing some new form of alternative powertrain to market though, thats pretty awesome. I know its only a matter of time where there are just as many charge stations as gas stations, but that could be a decade or 2 away.
We don’t need nearly as many (out of home) charging stations as we have gas stations currently, not even remotely close.
Just to chime in with some more relevant driving for you guys who are looking at PHEVs.
I drove from Sherwood Park to South Edmonton common to do some shopping last week (33km - 25 min drive) and ended up averaging 4.8L/100km.
I thought it was pretty good, had the climate control at 20.5 and the car switched from EV to HEV (engine running) throughout the whole trip to keep the temp up inside as it was around -20 outside.
This will be pretty close to my daily commute when I get back to work and I'm happy with those numbers for the temperature outside. I am able to turn off the heat if I want and run EV only but for obvious reasons I don't haha.
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Just to chime in with some more relevant driving for you guys who are looking at PHEVs.
I drove from Sherwood Park to South Edmonton common to do some shopping last week (33km - 25 min drive) and ended up averaging 4.8L/100km.
I thought it was pretty good, had the climate control at 20.5 and the car switched from EV to HEV (engine running) throughout the whole trip to keep the temp up inside as it was around -20 outside.
This will be pretty close to my daily commute when I get back to work and I'm happy with those numbers for the temperature outside. I am able to turn off the heat if I want and run EV only but for obvious reasons I don't haha.
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Weird how these PHEV's do not have some sort of heater specially designed to run on fuel. Much like a semi has those little units they can turn on when they want to keep their sleeper warm but engine off. Running an entire engine just to provide heat seems a bit excessive to me. The only way I would ever consider a PHEV is if I could get a decent range 50Km in electric only mode but that is all for not if I need a gas engine to run just to heat the the cabin half the year.
Hah, if that, I guess. But Doug isn't grabbing vehicles from the wild, either. I think he's reviewed the Rivian, the Lightening, and the Hummer. Hybrids he's done the Maverick and Santa Cruz.
I still think those short truck beds are useless. We have three people at work with Ridgelines and they never use the back for anything. In fact one of them had to borrow a full size truck from another co-worker to take some shelves the business was getting rid of home. I just don't see the point of a truck that can't do truck things.
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I still think those short truck beds are useless. We have three people at work with Ridgelines and they never use the back for anything. In fact one of them had to borrow a full size truck from another co-worker to take some shelves the business was getting rid of home. I just don't see the point of a truck that can't do truck things.
You could fit a fridge or a washing machine in the box that wouldn't fit in a SUV.
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