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Old 10-08-2020, 11:19 AM   #1541
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I went down a bit of a wormhole planning my new build and came across this LTT vid. Interesting results on water cooled vs air cooled.


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Old 10-08-2020, 11:38 AM   #1542
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I'm a big fan of my Noctua D15, and I'm only running it with a single fan in the middle.
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:42 AM   #1543
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NH-U12S height: 158mm

Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic case max cooler height: 155mm

WHY!?
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Old 10-08-2020, 12:36 PM   #1544
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NH-U12S height: 158mm

Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic case max cooler height: 155mm

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Do the Noctua NH-C14S.
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Old 10-08-2020, 01:28 PM   #1545
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Hm that's true. I'd like to find a good review of that with a 3900X but Noctua's site says it should work even for mild overclocking.
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Old 10-08-2020, 01:46 PM   #1546
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All the cool kids are doing water cooled tho?
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:06 PM   #1547
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Old 10-08-2020, 02:25 PM   #1548
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All the cool kids are doing water cooled tho?
AIO is the in between, I'm kind of cool but my CPU is cooler
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:13 PM   #1549
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Pff try replacing/adding RAM with those monster aircoolers installed.

I'll keep my AIO just so I don't have to disassemble the entire cooling block apparatus just to snap in 2 sticks or plug in a fan header.
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:18 PM   #1550
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I'm just really surprised they cool better than water cooled. I was trying to dig into whether the Kraken coolers with the lil LED screens performed as well as the Corsair AIO, and ended up second guessing using water cooled at all. Crazy times.
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Old 10-08-2020, 03:29 PM   #1551
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Pff try replacing/adding RAM with those monster aircoolers installed.

I'll keep my AIO just so I don't have to disassemble the entire cooling block apparatus just to snap in 2 sticks or plug in a fan header.
With the exception of obnoxiously tall RGB memory heatsinks, I haven't had an issue adding or removing DIMMs with my NH-D15... and it isn't even the D15S which was specifically designed for said RAM clearance issues.

For reference I have Team T-Force Delta RGB sticks, which are slightly taller than standard but not huge.
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Old 10-08-2020, 04:06 PM   #1552
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Ryzen 5000 series CPUs announced, coming out Nov 5. Looks like I'm upgrading my computer!

5950X as well with 16 cores, but $750 USD for that I'll probably go with the 12 core 5900X

Looks like they're much closer to Intel for gaming (if not better).
-3% in battlefield 5 5900x vs 10900k. which is the only negative in the slide they presented. I wonder if the extra 100mhz available to the 5950 will change results.

Also very concentrated on ryzen 9 5900x performance.


Ars technica has a write up of the amd presentation and they have screen caps of amd's relevant benchmark comparisons.


https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020...ve-november-5/

basically 20% faster over existing 3000 series.

A whelming swan song for AM4 socket and ddr4.

AMD prerecorded presentation.
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Old 10-09-2020, 11:25 PM   #1553
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So I got my 3080 in hand. Now I'm seeing the CX 48 preorders available for November?

Mercy on my wallet!
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Old 10-10-2020, 05:06 PM   #1554
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Looks like the 48's are as expensive as the 55's which sorta makes sense given them cutting the motherglass and how many they can get out of each. But 55 seems awfully big even for the gaming rig.

Anybody use something that large for a monitor? How close are you sitting?
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Old 10-13-2020, 11:55 AM   #1555
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Starting to plan a build for the new AMD processors.

Trying to decide between a B550 motherboard and an X570. I'd go with X570 almost no question except I found out most of the boards have chipset fans. I usually build as silent as I can, so a bit worried about a whiny little chipset fan.

Though some of them it appears you can set it so the fan is stopped at idle, and if it spins while I'm gaming I don't care as much as I'd have my headphones on anyway.

I'm not going to be extreme overclocking.

From what I can see the only real immediate downside of a B550 would be that the chipset runs on PCIe 3.0 instead of 4.0, which means my 2nd (or more) m.2 slots would run at PCIe 3.0 speeds. But I think I'd be ok with that, my 2nd SSD currently is a SATA drive for storing some less played games.

And the B550's are a bit cheaper.

Any other things I should be aware of?
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Old 10-13-2020, 03:32 PM   #1556
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Starting to plan a build for the new AMD processors.

Trying to decide between a B550 motherboard and an X570. I'd go with X570 almost no question except I found out most of the boards have chipset fans. I usually build as silent as I can, so a bit worried about a whiny little chipset fan.

Though some of them it appears you can set it so the fan is stopped at idle, and if it spins while I'm gaming I don't care as much as I'd have my headphones on anyway.

I'm not going to be extreme overclocking.

From what I can see the only real immediate downside of a B550 would be that the chipset runs on PCIe 3.0 instead of 4.0, which means my 2nd (or more) m.2 slots would run at PCIe 3.0 speeds. But I think I'd be ok with that, my 2nd SSD currently is a SATA drive for storing some less played games.

And the B550's are a bit cheaper.

Any other things I should be aware of?
The Gigabyte X570 Aorus Extreme is fanless, but it's $999.

In the Gigabyte BIOS you can set the fan to stop until the system is under heavy load when your case fans will probably drown it out.

This test makes it out to be a non-issue for most people.



The only other downside to B550 is it doesn't support processors with an APU, like the 3200G. That doesn't affect you so I think you're good.
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Old 10-13-2020, 04:18 PM   #1557
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Most people don't have systems where the loudest component is the hard drive! Yeah that Aorus Extreme is super nice, but not $999 nice.

ASUS strangely enough doesn't provide any fan control, which is weird.
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Old 10-13-2020, 06:40 PM   #1558
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My dad needs a new PC and I have no idea what to recommend for him. He really only uses it for Facebook, Youtube and things like that but the computer he's using right now is ancient and he needs something a little quicker. I'm thinking pretty cheap because it doesn't need to be anything special, other than putting an SSD in it. Any ideas? I can build a gaming PC but I have no idea what to look for when it comes to low budget stuff like this. I'm thinking ideally under $4-500 including Windows? Even cheaper if possible. Not sure how realistic that is.
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Old 10-13-2020, 06:47 PM   #1559
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My dad needs a new PC and I have no idea what to recommend for him. He really only uses it for Facebook, Youtube and things like that but the computer he's using right now is ancient and he needs something a little quicker. I'm thinking pretty cheap because it doesn't need to be anything special, other than putting an SSD in it. Any ideas? I can build a gaming PC but I have no idea what to look for when it comes to low budget stuff like this. I'm thinking ideally under $4-500 including Windows? Even cheaper if possible. Not sure how realistic that is.
Chromebooks are going to be much more zippy for the dollar than trying to build a cheap pc. Also far lower maintenance which means way less calls for help from Dad!
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My dad needs a new PC and I have no idea what to recommend for him. He really only uses it for Facebook, Youtube and things like that but the computer he's using right now is ancient and he needs something a little quicker. I'm thinking pretty cheap because it doesn't need to be anything special, other than putting an SSD in it. Any ideas? I can build a gaming PC but I have no idea what to look for when it comes to low budget stuff like this. I'm thinking ideally under $4-500 including Windows? Even cheaper if possible. Not sure how realistic that is.


Does he really need a PC then? Would a tablet (iPad, Fire,...) work?
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