it's a long audio clip. The Hartley stuff is around 1:05
"I could even take Mike Keenan and the head games that he played, but with Bob it was mental warfare"
some interesting tidbits:
blasted Hartley's defensive system, D-men not allowed to reverse the puck to exit the zone. Sounds like he told Feaster/Burke this during his exit meeting with Hartley in the room
Sarich healthy scratch for 11 consecutive games, Hartley learns that he had a few beers the day before a game, so he dresses him to show him up
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I heard that this morning, very interesting. I hadn’t heard anything that direct before, but it made me understand why he got fired. Sarich seems like a genuine guy, and when he actually ranks Keenan ahead of Hartley, you can tell how much Hartley was disliked. And that stuff about not allowing reversing of the puck, wow.
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Taken with a grain of salt I always enjoy this stuff.
It goes to show you that we don't know crap about what goes on behind closed doors. I also think it's a huge lack of professionalism. Treat the players like kids.
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You heard Hartley was a hard ass. Roy said he was an animal. Then the team performed. Kids were good and used more than a Sutter would have. Fitness levels were high. And Hartley interviews on 960 were light and made him likeable. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. Damn.
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Perry Berezan said in one article Hartley's not very kind to his players either.
Someone else talking about Hartley said that Hartley was the only coach who he'd seen players specifically add to their no trade clause, because they didn't want to play for him that badly.
Here's the one with Berezan talking about what he saw from him, I can't find the other article though.
I don't doubt any of this. And while I think it was absolutely the best decision to move along from him when we did... I'll always love that crazy S.O.B. for that wild crazy comeback season that culminated in yet another playoff series victory over Vancouver. Despite it's fundamental flaws, that was an exciting season to watch and I do think it did a lot of good for the offensive confidence of Johnny and Monny etc.
Having said that wouldn't be surprised to not see him get another NHL head coaching gig again. Unless maybe Montreal is looking for that specific brand of chaos some day.
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With Hartley being a hard ass and Roy calling him an animal, that's kinda what Berezan touches on in the above article about his "knee to the groin" coaching.
It worked to get our team to the second round, but that was the very ceiling of that team. It worked for a cup in Colorado, but at the same time he had like 8 hall of famers, and they tuned him out the next season after their peak. I liked Hartley, but it does make sense if those are more so the reasons he got canned, rather than exclusively the performance of that final season.
...and to think that the Jack Adams trophy is awarded to the "best coach" during the season. Imagine how players wanted to spit in his drink and piss in his cornflakes after he was nominated and ended up winning. I for one would take Cory's word for it. With the feedback from everyone I know who've ever had moments with Sarich, the feedback has been overwhelmingly on the side of someone having great integrity and natural leadership... just someone who people gravitate towards. It's a shame that he ended his tenure as a Flame on such a bitter note.
- Tortorella, after a really bad game by Sarich, told Sarich how bad of a dman he is but having said that, he was still the best dman he had so he needs to play him
- commented on how Giordano brings it 100% of the time, including practice. Admitted it's maybe too much sometimes because as a player you may not be 100% that day but not Gio.
- likes Jankowski's game and feels he's been consistent. Feels he could probably be more physical.
- like Giordano's game and when he was asked specifically about Hamonic, responded that he feels that Hamonic has been better of late.
- feels that the Flames aren't physical enough. Warrener chimed in and agreed and feels that Flames have enough of the horses to be physical (Ferland, Tkachuk, Frolik, entire third line and entire fourth line) and talked about the benefits of dumping the puck in and pursuing and hitting the other team's dmen as a way to tire them out. Pinder countered that it seems that coaches in general are steering away from this strategy now with maintain possession now being the preferred approach over giving the puck to the other team.
Always like hearing ex-players talk about the details of the game.
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...and to think that the Jack Adams trophy is awarded to the "best coach" during the season. Imagine how players wanted to spit in his drink and piss in his cornflakes after he was nominated and ended up winning. I for one would take Cory's word for it. With the feedback from everyone I know who've ever had moments with Sarich, the feedback has been overwhelmingly on the side of someone having great integrity and natural leadership... just someone who people gravitate towards. It's a shame that he ended his tenure as a Flame on such a bitter note.
Two sides to every story.....trying to control a group of multi-millionaires would be huge challenge. I'm sure Bob has a few zingers about ole Cory as well.
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Not really surprising considering some of the things we have heard about Hartley being a hard ass and the fact Sarich spent a good chunk of that season riding the pine and then was shipped out of town in a lopsided trade.
I always liked Bob and 2014/15 will always be one of the most memorable Flames season but he did seem like a coach with a short shelf life and it was a good decision when he was let go. That last comment about showing up Sarich makes me like him more though. Having drinks the day before the game showed Sarich had stopped caring so Hartley sent a message to always be prepared.
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Hrudey mentions in his book that he was chatting with some Flames players and they said Hartley felt that even one drink would lead to alcoholism and that they werent allowed to drink.
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With multiple sources, safe to say he wasn't liked. So glad they got rid of him, for me he ranks right up there with Gilbert as one of the worst Flames coaches.
There's a few examples that show Hartley crossed the line from hard ass to total #######. It seemed he was one of those mean spirited coaches that if he didn't like you that was it just like with Baertschi. You can understand why so many players spoke out to Treliving that they didn't like playing for him.
Hartley did some good things as he had the team play above expectations for a few seasons and installed confidence in the players that they could overcome any deficit. However his defensive system was woefully outdated as was his professionalism with the players and those two things ultimately did him in. There's a reason he hasn't been hired in the league since and that's because he's simply an out of date coach.
Cory Sarich - Bob Hartley "was the worst coach I ever had"
