06-18-2018, 02:10 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Tod Button says it is a deep draft with lots of good d-men. Says its 60:40 d-men to forwards.
Also said they had 70 players on their list last year. This year they have 90-100 players.
Lots of comments on 2nd round picks and the first 3 rounds being really deep from the Flames scouts.
So hint hint Brad?
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06-18-2018, 02:15 PM
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#202
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Tod Button says it is a deep draft with lots of good d-men. Says its 60:40 d-men to forwards.
Also said they had 70 players on their list last year. This year they have 90-100 players
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Well yea, I would guess. When your first pick isn't until 105th, your list better be a little longer. Fricken thing is gonna look like it's bleeding to death with all the names that are crossed out before the flames get a selection.
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06-18-2018, 03:27 PM
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#203
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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How does someone surge when they haven't played hockey in 2 months?!
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06-18-2018, 03:37 PM
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#204
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, what a bunch of bull kotkaniemi.
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06-18-2018, 03:44 PM
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#205
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
How does someone surge when they haven't played hockey in 2 months?!
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McKenzie's last ranking was published on Jan 26. So yes, things have changed since then when Kotkaniemi was ranked 19, especially as the article states at the u18s in April.
People seem to forget that McKenzie doesn't put out rankings every month like some scouting services.
Last edited by sureLoss; 06-18-2018 at 03:49 PM.
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06-18-2018, 03:53 PM
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#206
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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TSN draft lottery rankings had him at 10. Which was released in April.
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06-18-2018, 03:58 PM
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#207
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
TSN draft lottery rankings had him at 10. Which was released in April.
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doh. forgot about the draft lottery rankings.
Anyways those rankings were probably gathered before the u18s which ran from April 19 to 29.
The draft lottery was on April 28.
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06-18-2018, 04:06 PM
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#208
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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To be clear, I wasn't picking at you or anything. It just seemed a little click-baity coming from Bob.
These draft day miracles usually are reserved for the NFL draft.
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06-18-2018, 04:44 PM
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#209
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First Line Centre
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Based on the bottom end of Bob's list and doing a quick point per game sweep there are a few guys that would be nice to see drop to us in the fourth round.
Aiden Dudas
Cole Fonstad
Riley Sutter
Phillip Kurashev
Logan Hutsko
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06-18-2018, 04:45 PM
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#210
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by shutout
Based on the bottom end of Bob's list and doing a quick point per game sweep there are a few guys that would be nice to see drop to us in the fourth round.
Aiden Dudas
Cole Fonstad
Riley Sutter
Phillip Kurashev
Logan Hutsko
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Last of gen 2. Sutters.
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06-18-2018, 06:31 PM
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#211
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shutout
Based on the bottom end of Bob's list and doing a quick point per game sweep there are a few guys that would be nice to see drop to us in the fourth round.
Aiden Dudas
Cole Fonstad
Riley Sutter
Phillip Kurashev
Logan Hutsko
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I will be very surprised if a single one of those guys are available at 105, but they would all be very good picks.
I'm hoping Toni Utunen falls that far, he's like the only guy I'm excited about that the Flames might have a shot at.
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06-18-2018, 08:45 PM
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#212
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Franchise Player
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Don’t really know if the price will be worth it to acquire a 3rd or 2nd round pick. My guess is the flames stay where they are at. Sucks but hopefully they get a high potential guy somehow
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06-19-2018, 07:05 AM
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#213
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Beninho
Don’t really know if the price will be worth it to acquire a 3rd or 2nd round pick. My guess is the flames stay where they are at. Sucks but hopefully they get a high potential guy somehow
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Oh I bet they add draft picks for sure (i.e. another 3rd etc..)
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06-19-2018, 11:29 AM
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#214
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Originally Posted by flambers
Oh I bet they add draft picks for sure (i.e. another 3rd etc..)
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This is my take aswell. The Flames will likely target a pick based on their draft list. I predict a fairly low key deal that involves swapping one of their 4th and a prospect, for a prospect and a 3rd.
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06-19-2018, 12:24 PM
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#215
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Some times players you rate highly fall for no particular reason and you can snag a good value player in the 4th round. Look at last year with Ruzicka. I would have thought he would have went in the 50-70 range based on his tools, position, and overall makeup. Instead he was available when the Flames finally went to pick. It looks like an excellent pick for the 4th round thus far.
I wouldn't be shocked if something similar happened this year, where the Flames get a guy who is falling for no particular reason.
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06-19-2018, 12:32 PM
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#216
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Originally Posted by Caged Great
Some times players you rate highly fall for no particular reason and you can snag a good value player in the 4th round. Look at last year with Ruzicka. I would have thought he would have went in the 50-70 range based on his tools, position, and overall makeup. Instead he was available when the Flames finally went to pick. It looks like an excellent pick for the 4th round thus far.
I wouldn't be shocked if something similar happened this year, where the Flames get a guy who is falling for no particular reason.
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This comment reminds me of a list I made earlier this year
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06-19-2018, 12:35 PM
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#217
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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I'm fully expecting the Flames to find a gem in this draft. Not having any higher picks should have focused them on the prospects expected to go in this range.
My fear is that someone falls from the late 2nd or early 3rd and is still on the board and they come off their plan.
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06-19-2018, 01:31 PM
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#218
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Kelowna
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Honestly not overly upset the Flames don't have top picks because our drafting has been so good the last few years. I love how this scouting staff prioritizes value over other intangibles and takes fliers on guys they know have the ability and aren't so easily swayed by the consensus, albeit a few picks from years ago like Smith and Kanzig where size played a huge role in their decision. Seems like they've moved on from that crap and regained fan trust in their decisions.
People tend to forget we already have excellent prospects in the organization and to trade those from within who are further in their development for a shiny pick in the top 3 rounds is taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
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06-19-2018, 08:45 PM
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#219
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Franchise Player
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Prediction! The Oilers are going to draft Bode Wilde in the first round.
He's a guy with a ton of tools but not tool box.
The precise type of guy the Oil will draft.
Looking forward to it.
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06-19-2018, 08:47 PM
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#220
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
Some times players you rate highly fall for no particular reason and you can snag a good value player in the 4th round. Look at last year with Ruzicka. I would have thought he would have went in the 50-70 range based on his tools, position, and overall makeup. Instead he was available when the Flames finally went to pick. It looks like an excellent pick for the 4th round thus far.
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I think for a 4th rounder he wasn't a bad pick but when I've watched him his G.A.S. level is really poor.
He's got some skill but needs a lot of maturity to be a pro at all.
But I like the focus on upside with those late rounds.
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