2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by hansmoleman

I think Jankowski is more like Steve Sullivan or a Pat Verbeek, big body that plays the game big and has big hands. Comes up with big plays in big situations.

Good in his own zone but can light the lamp at both ends of the rink.

Pat Verbeek: 5’9” - 190 lbs
Steve Sullivan: 5’7” - 156 lbs

Mark Jankowski: 6’4” - 205 lbs

One of these things is not like the others.

[868904]

Originally Posted by hansmoleman

I think Jankowski is more like Steve Sullivan or a Pat Verbeek, big body that plays the game big and has big hands. Comes up with big plays in big situations.

Good in his own zone but can light the lamp at both ends of the rink.

You might be confusing Steve Sullivan and Pat Verbeek with other players.

[Toonage]

Montreal still has their 1st round picks for the next few years I believe. Colorado doesn't get the defenseman they want, but thats a deal that could work.

Galchenyuk, a 2018 1st and a 2019 1st. Colorado would do that wouldn't they?

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by 868904

You might be confusing Steve Sullivan and Pat Verbeek with other players.

Also I don't want Jankowski lighting the lamp at both ends of the rink. That would mean scoring on his own team.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Montreal still has their 1st round picks for the next few years I believe. Colorado doesn't get the defenseman they want, but thats a deal that could work.

Galchenyuk, a 2018 1st and a 2019 1st. Colorado would do that wouldn't they?

I guess? I probably wouldn't though. I would be looking for Mete in the deal if they want Duchene that bad. They want roster players, because if it was a deal with multiple draft picks involved, I am pretty sure that they would have pulled the trigger already. But who knows, it's Sakic.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

I call BS on the there being a substantial offer for Duchene other than spare parts from the offering team.

If Sakic had something that was anywhere in the realm of fair, he'd pull the trigger.

Speculation based on assumptions. So pretty questionable conclusion you've reached

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

And while Drouin is a fine player, I'm skeptical that he deserves to be a top line player, let alone a top line center.

Meanwhile, Mikhail Sergachev has made the Lightning to start the year after a very strong training camp, beating out Slater Koekkoek to date for a regular spot. So far in 3 games, he's even on the plus/minus with 3rd pairing ice time, with one assist to his name....the same amount of points that Drouin has provided the Habs as their top line center.

He's been good enough that some fans are analyzing the decision to keep him up permanently as a 19 year old. If Sergachev doesn't play 40 games this year, the Lightning get a 2nd round pick. I wouldn't rush him, but he looks like he's destined to be a top 4 mainstay for years.

https://www.rawcharge.com/2017/10/10...man-jon-cooper

TL;DR-Yzerman is smart and Bergevin is dumb.

Drouin was getting benched in the World Cup because he wasn't committed enough defensively. He couldn't stick in Tampa because he wasn't committed enough defensively.

So Marc Bergevin decides to take this small, defensively weak skilled winger, and turn him into a centre because he played centre in junior behind Nathan MacKinnon.

Hey, at least he speaks French.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by hansmoleman

Good in his own zone but can light the lamp at both ends of the rink.

Like Steve Smith did once?

[cral12]

Originally Posted by Poe969

except Duchene is playing well and has where Galchenyuk doesn't look good at all.

No doubt, but not sure GMs make decisions based on 3-4 games into a season (though I guess Bergevin might!)

[BigFlameDog]

Man, I loved hating Verbeek. He was great.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

l
So Marc Bergevin decides to take this small, defensively weak skilled winger, and turn him into a centre because he played centre in junior behind Nathan MacKinnon.

When MacKinnon was on the team Drouin played LW IIRC. He moved to centre when MacKinnon graduated and Ehlers basically replaced Drouin on the wing IIRC

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Pat Verbeek: 5’9” - 190 lbs
Steve Sullivan: 5’7” - 156 lbs

Mark Jankowski: 6’4” - 205 lbs

One of these things is not like the others.

I will say Pat Verbeek was as strong and chiseled as you will ever see a player.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Pat Verbeek: 5’9” - 190 lbs
Steve Sullivan: 5’7” - 156 lbs

Mark Jankowski: 6’4” - 205 lbs

One of these things is not like the others.

The one guys nickname was even "The LITTLE ball of hate".

[Murph]

Originally Posted by hansmoleman

I think Jankowski is more like Steve Sullivan or a Pat Verbeek, big body that plays the game big and has big hands. Comes up with big plays in big situations.

Good in his own zone but can light the lamp at both ends of the rink.

I see that you are a disciple of the Donald Trump school of adjectives...

[hjerk]

Originally Posted by Murph

I see that you are a disciple of The BIG Donald Trump's BIG school of BIG adjectives...

Fixed .

[Poe969]

wouldn't it be:

I see that you are a disciple of the Donald Trump's school of BIG adjectives...

or is it just a really big school?

[northcrunk]

Seriously? Why the hell does every thread need to include a reference to Trump? Nobody cares. The joke is over done. Do you want to ask if my refrigerator is running?

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Seriously? Why the hell does every thread need to include a reference to Trump? Nobody cares. The joke is over done. Do you want to ask if my refrigerator is running?

Sorry, but the statute of limitations on making fun of Donald Trump will never expire.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Seriously? Why the hell does every thread need to include a reference to Trump? Nobody cares. The joke is over done. Do you want to ask if my refrigerator is running?

This is Trump's world. We're all just fake humans in it.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Speculation based on assumptions. So pretty questionable conclusion you've reached

Other than the fact they have been looking to move Duchene or he has wanted out for months, if not a year now(as rumored)... Duchene has 2 years left on his deal and is a UFA at the end(fact), how can one not conclude that the rumor of an offer that has supposedly been on the table, isnt BS? Unless the offer is simply for spare parts..?

"Speculation based on assumptions" ? isnt that the whole thread? At least I have used some sort of deduction of speculation to apply to my thought process.

If this was information by a unknown source, who's to say the source isnt from the Avs front office in an attempt to drive up the price on Duchene as the offers they have actually received are not what Sakic thinks the is fair market value?