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Old 10-16-2017, 04:03 PM   #541
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Man, Starfleet really needs to work on their transport security. It's fricking war time and they have no VIP protection except a single pilot?

I think the Klingon spy is Voq, where was he during this episode when L'Rell was there the whole time. Lorca's Tribble might take a starring role soon when it gets to his fortune cookies.
That wasn't L'Rell though that was I think Dennas who was one of the holograms in the first episode.

But that's an theory that i didn't even think of.

Ash Tyler who was the guy in the cell is in the rest of the episodes, it was also interesting that he was in the credit for the first episodes even though he didn't appear in them.
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Old 10-16-2017, 10:28 PM   #542
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Between generally whiny-ness and endless subtitles, the less of the Klingons I see the better. Apparently not a single person involved in this show in any decision-making capacity has seen The Hunt for Red October.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:03 AM   #543
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Between generally whiny-ness and endless subtitles, the less of the Klingons I see the better. Apparently not a single person involved in this show in any decision-making capacity has seen The Hunt for Red October.
I realized this last episode that for the first time in my life I'm going to not watch a Star Trek series. I haven't enjoyed a single episode. Hate the characters. The Klingons are beyond annoying. The Captain isn't Star Trek like in the least. The lead character I would have enjoyed if they bumped her off and Michelle Yeoh was the star. Whiny first officer, whiny egineeer, whiny roommate. Unwatchable whine fest!
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:29 AM   #544
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So far I think its great... I mean, starting at the beginning of a Federation/Klingon war? Yes please.

Special effects have been better than what I expected, and the modern way of doing seasonal story arc's versus pure episodic nonsense so far seems to be fitting well.

8/10
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:17 AM   #545
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What's not to like so far? There has been some great plot twists. A Joffrey like captain who is hell bent on war as diplomacy with the Klingon empire. Great special effects, interesting stories and a crew trying to do the right thing given many adversities, personal conflicts and crew to crew conflict.

If anything the show should be criticized for poaching some plot lines from Game of Thrones, but it's been rather exciting to watch. It's not the slow plodding Star Trek's of the past, but once we knew TNG and that series developed it was the same. They finished on a movie quality note. This series has started out that way. I wonder how they will keep it up.

I quite enjoy watching the Klingons talking in their language and their way of thinking. I agree their appearance re-imagination isn't spot on, but their tech and costumes makeup for it.

Series has progressed well.
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Old 10-18-2017, 08:26 PM   #546
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Pretty good episode. Still not feeling the Klingons as much as I'd be hoping but hopefully they'll get there. The writing is still the weak spot I think but it's good enough that I'll keep watching.

I'm glad the tardigrade is gone, it just screamed plot holes. One episode it can destroy an entire ship, the next it takes out a crew member like nothing, the next it just gets depressed and doesn't fight back they just cavalierly walk in on it right after they torture it, and then we find out it could have simply teleported itself away at any time. The more deus ex machina your plot device, the more likely you'll have gaps big enough to fly a starship through.
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Old 10-19-2017, 12:38 PM   #547
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and then we find out it could have simply teleported itself away at any time.
I thought it needed the spores, and not to be tied to the ship's computers. I agree though- seemed a little bit of a weak point.

I almost didn't watch this last episode, but stuck it out based on the comments here. Definitely better, but still having a hard time keeping my interest.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:30 AM   #548
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I'll continue to watch the show but the Klingon redesign is terrible. I want to relax watching tv. Screw the subtitles. Show is 6/10 and perhaps falling - plot being the biggest problem. Most of the ST series first season or two was terrible. TNG, DS9, Voyager - all crap crap 1st seasons.
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Pretty appalling. Now that silly plot device is a reminder of how bereft of ideas the showrunners are. I had hopes for this show, but I don't see how this series will properly fit in and its hard to ignore the plagiarism.
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Old 10-22-2017, 04:50 PM   #551
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Old 10-22-2017, 05:24 PM   #552
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Star Trek has never used someone else's idea before...
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Old 10-22-2017, 05:33 PM   #553
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You can see all the Discovery haters already -- "I won't watch this show because it uses someone else's ideas! I'm going to watch The Orville instead!"
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Next up, J.R.R. Tolkien's estate called out for using dwarves and elves in The Hobbit. And a dragon. He invented none of them.

Wizards of the Coast become attacked because Gary Gygax also included dwarves, elves, and dragons, combined with dungeons, a half century ago.

And now its Star Trek, which includes a giant sized micro-organism.

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Good episode I thought, more character focused is good.

Could see the ending coming a mile away, I wonder what they're setting up for the captain down the road. Are they setting up Burnham having to make the same choice as before?

There's only 3 episodes left before the break (the rest start in January), so they'll build towards a mini-cliffhanger.

Lol at the preview for next week, it could be titled "Hey Look, we're Star Trek, no really!"
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Good episode I thought, more character focused is good.

Could see the ending coming a mile away, I wonder what they're setting up for the captain down the road. Are they setting up Burnham having to make the same choice as before?

There's only 3 episodes left before the break (the rest start in January), so they'll build towards a mini-cliffhanger.

Lol at the preview for next week, it could be titled "Hey Look, we're Star Trek, no really!"
I agree, this one was an improved episode because they uncluttered it, this show is still struggling to find its footing in terms of what it wants to be though.

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So just to add on to the mystery

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For anyone missing the old TNG style stuff and want to see some more John de lance's Q, I'm just going to leave this here...

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