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Old 01-19-2022, 05:19 PM   #601
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I posted this in the automotive thread but it's probably worth a mention here. Not good Elon. Lucky that woman didn't get into a major accident.

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This happens all the time with every single car manufacturer. If there are humans involved, mistakes will happen.

"Not good Elon."

Does he install the brake pads? Run the factories?
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Old 01-19-2022, 05:39 PM   #602
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this happens all the time with every single car manufacturer. If there are humans involved, mistakes will happen.

"not good elon."

Does he install the brake pads? Run the factories?
You are right. So many stories over the years of cars being delivered sans brake pads. Very common. Nothing to see here.

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Old 01-19-2022, 08:29 PM   #603
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This happens all the time with every single car manufacturer. If there are humans involved, mistakes will happen.
Do you know why all new vehicles have at least some mileage on them when you buy brand new?

Because every single car gets a road test and PDI by a dealer technician prior to being delivered; typically before being detailed and put on the lot even.

So this isn't a single mistake. This mistake happened once during the actual manufacturing process, then during the factory's quality control check before being sent out for shipping to the dealer performing the delivery, then again during the pre-delivery inspection and road test undertaken by the dealership, and then again when the customer raised the issue and was told "that's what the brakes on the Model 3 Performance sound like".

That's four times the company completely biffed it on a critical safety item.
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Old 01-24-2022, 10:54 AM   #604
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And as a company that is growing fast and figuring out almost every aspect of their business, they obviously need to make sure mistakes like this don't happen.

It is amusing that you think other companies don't 'biff' on other critical safety items as well.

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Ford Motor Company is recalling an estimated 19,697 model-year 2021 Super Duty F-250, F-350, F-450, F-550, F-600, and Medium-Duty F-650 and F-750 vehicles equipped with 6.7L diesel engines due to a potential fire risk.

Specifically, a small void may be present in the top-center of the vehicle's underhood secondary fuel filter cap, which may progress to a pinhole over time, allowing fuel to leak from the top of the secondary fuel filter.

This is a hazardous scenario as a fuel leak in the presence of an ignition source increases the risk of a fire.
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Contrast between: A recall notice and bewildered costumers on Twitter.
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Also a better comparison would be a missing fuel filter cap rather than a small void that may progress to a pinhole over time.
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And as a company that is growing fast and figuring out almost every aspect of their business, they obviously need to make sure mistakes like this don't happen.

It is amusing that you think other companies don't 'biff' on other critical safety items as well.

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I think it's far more amusing that you are comparing a recall over a design flaw where the company is proactively calling back ~20k vehicles to fix the design to an instance of manufacturer quality control failure and dealer service department incompetence as the same thing.

It's a false equivalence and totally kills whatever point you were trying to make. You know better.
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Old 01-29-2022, 09:03 PM   #609
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And as a company that is growing fast and figuring out almost every aspect of their business, they obviously need to make sure mistakes like this don't happen.

It is amusing that you think other companies don't 'biff' on other critical safety items as well.

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A small leak in a diesel fuel system compared to not installing brake pads.... One is an actual hazard, the other is over stated.

Good luck lighting diesel on fire because of a pinhole leak in the real world.
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At 3;20 you can watch autopilot navigate an empty street corner in perfect daylight, right into a bollard. Any day now, they'll get this figured out...
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The display shows what the car thinks it sees, and it doesn't see the bollards at all. A little later on he resumes driving and the car does see some of them but not all.
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The N-word and other racist slurs were hurled daily at Black workers at Tesla’s California plant, delivered not just by fellow employees but also by managers and supervisors.


So says California’s civil rights agency in a lawsuit filed against the electric-vehicle maker in Alameda County Superior Court on Thursday on behalf of thousands of Black workers after a decade of complaints and a 32-month investigation.


Tesla segregated Black workers into separate areas that its employees referred to as “porch monkey stations,” “the dark side,” “the slave ship” and “the plantation,” the lawsuit alleges.
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How does this happen in the 21st century?
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Sounds a little over the top IMO. I have a hard time believing an operation this large in this day would allow this type of behaviour to the extent of the allegations. Maybe that explains some of the shoddy build quality.
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Sounds a little over the top IMO. I have a hard time believing an operation this large in this day would allow this type of behaviour to the extent of the allegations. Maybe that explains some of the shoddy build quality.
See what the court says, but I've been seeing stories about racism at Tesla for as long as they've been in mass production.
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See what the court says, but I've been seeing stories about racism at Tesla for as long as they've been in mass production.
If it's all true then that's terrible but it seems kind of crazy in this day and age for some of the accusations to be true.
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1497165072744865800


Huh, Elon says what I've been saying for years. You need real AI if your inputs are visual only.
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Huh, Elon says what I've been saying for years. You need real AI if your inputs are visual only.

Would you ever trust it enough so you could set a course and then sleep for the duration?
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Would you ever trust it enough so you could set a course and then sleep for the duration?
I hope one day we get there, and don't really doubt we will. No one has yet. True AI has been a dream for decades. I'd predict companies that integrate many sensor inputs will make do without true AI and have the most competent systems. When will we get AI like Musk says we will need? Who knows. I'm not convinced he does either.
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So Musk is making real world AI to drive cars, but he also says that we should all be terrified of AI because it's more dangerous than nukes.

Don't worry look how friendly the Tesla Bot is!

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