View Poll Results: Which jersey number should be retired?
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#2 - MacInnis
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50 |
32.68% |
#5 - Giordano
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44 |
28.76% |
#10 - Roberts
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2 |
1.31% |
#13 - Gaudreau
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#14 - Fleury
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30 |
19.61% |
#25 - Nieuwendyk
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19 |
12.42% |
#34 - Kiprusoff
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99 |
64.71% |
Somebody else not in the poll
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Nobody for now
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11.76% |
08-15-2022, 03:58 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chilliwack, B.C
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I have no problem getting rid of the Forever Flame crap and retiring Nieuwendyk and MacInnis numbers but besides Fleury there's no one worthy of retirement in my eyes.
Fleury has his demons so I don't even think 14 would be retired for a very long time.
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08-15-2022, 04:05 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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I can't see any of the older guys getting retired this far after their retirement. Just seems... weird.
I think they would have also done Kipper by now if they were going too
So the only 2 candidate are Fleury and Gio
Honestly, I don't think Gio did enough to be retired.
So it's down to Fleury.
The only way I could ever see him getting it retired is if he pulled a complete 180, apologized for his past behaviors and comments (which I don't think he is sorry for . or needs to even be) and it became a heartwarming finally raising his jersey redemption story
So I don't think anyone gets their jersey retired anytime soon.
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08-15-2022, 05:09 PM
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#23
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#1 Goaltender
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This thread is really lacking some #28.
That said I'm cool with a two tiered retired/honoured system and keeping retirement very exclusive.
I think #14 voided his chance by not being an ambassador for the organization. And #5 needs to put in some Calgary community services to jump passed the honoured level and into the retirement level.
A guy like #34 who skipped town the minute he was done just didn't leave the retirement legacy here. And the other guys did too much on other teams.
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08-15-2022, 05:18 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Always boggles my mind how Vernon was the 2nd player to get retired, especially with some great players from his own era still not up there. But that's a good point about it more being due to honouring his born and raised / entire hockey career until 1994 being in Calgary. Still feels like it's more of a lifetime achievement award type of retirement which is a little forced and cheesy, but I digress.
Chopper absolutely has to be up there though. I'd only put Lanny and Iggy above him in over 40 years of Calgary Flames history. That's really gotta get done one of these years, especially now that the hard feelings between him and the organization have finally been smoothed over it seems.
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08-15-2022, 05:34 PM
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#25
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by #-3
And #5 needs to put in some Calgary community services to jump passed the honoured level and into the retirement level.
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Uhhhh... I'll debate Giordano's inclusion based on level of play (i.e. Norris Trophy), but the guy's won slews of humanitarian awards (including international ones like the Muhammad Ali Award) for community service.
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08-15-2022, 05:37 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: I'm right behind you
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dx54
Not a bad discussion IMO. I don't think a number retirement will happen, but I can see that no one wears it for a long time.
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I predict that the next Flame to wear 13 won't be a skill player but rather a grinder just so Sutter can say things like "It's nice seeing a number 13 do ______ for a change."
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08-15-2022, 06:06 PM
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#27
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Uhhhh... I'll debate Giordano's inclusion based on level of play (i.e. Norris Trophy), but the guy's won slews of humanitarian awards (including international ones like the Muhammad Ali Award) for community service.
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I actually meant hanging around and continuing to be part of the community post career. Retirements are for franchise players and community icons.
Not to deminish anything that happened while he was here but if he doesn't continue to contribute to Calgary in the future, and was never really the "franchise" guy, then even with his resume I'd rather see him honoured, retirement is overused by the vast majority of teams
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08-15-2022, 06:19 PM
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#28
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Powerplay Quarterback
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34 was nominated for the Vezina 3 times wasn't he ? 2004, 2006, 2007??
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08-15-2022, 06:20 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Backlund after he captains them to three straight Stanley Cup parades
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08-15-2022, 06:24 PM
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#30
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #-3
I actually meant hanging around and continuing to be part of the community post career. Retirements are for franchise players and community icons.
Not to deminish anything that happened while he was here but if he doesn't continue to contribute to Calgary in the future, and was never really the "franchise" guy, then even with his resume I'd rather see him honoured, retirement is overused by the vast majority of teams
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I guess we'll see after his playing days are done.
Iginla, BTW, really hasn't done much locally post-career either.
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08-15-2022, 06:48 PM
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#31
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Airdrie
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I think 34 and 5 will get retired. As for MacInnis, I think forever a Flame is good enough. He already has his number retired in St.Louis and even has a statue outside the arena.
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08-15-2022, 06:48 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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I'm in no rush to retire 2 and 25. I'm fine with how it was handled.
14 deserves to have his jersey retired for being the face of the franchise and such a fan favorite but I understand why it isn't. There is a reconciliation waiting to happen there but sadly doesn't seem likely.
34 would be cool. Love that guy.
5 just had no playoff success whatsoever. He probably deserves it and seems like such a great guy but for some reason, I'm not convinced.
I love that the Flames have so few retired numbers. My vote would be to handle banners the same way. Hang banners for Stanley Cups, Conference championship and President's Trophy. Everything else can be recognized in the concourse area or something.
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08-15-2022, 06:51 PM
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#33
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First Line Centre
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Would 34 show up to his own retirement? Lol
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08-15-2022, 06:59 PM
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#34
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434
34 was nominated for the Vezina 3 times wasn't he ? 2004, 2006, 2007??
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I didn’t think to add the year he won to the finalist column. I'll change it as that makes more sense.
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Originally Posted by #-3
This thread is really lacking some #28.
That said I'm cool with a two tiered retired/honoured system and keeping retirement very exclusive.
I think #14 voided his chance by not being an ambassador for the organization. And #5 needs to put in some Calgary community services to jump passed the honoured level and into the retirement level.
A guy like #34 who skipped town the minute he was done just didn't leave the retirement legacy here. And the other guys did too much on other teams.
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I can't think of a strong case for Reggie.
827 GP
30 Goals
168 Points
+27
0 Individual awards or nominations
1x World Cup of Hockey Gold
1x Olympic Team Selection
Great defensive defenseman and staple of our backend for years. But I don't think he's at he same level as any of the names on that list, including Gio.
Also Iggy hasn't lived in Calgary since 2013. Heck, I think he was living in the states until just last year, wasn't he? What community work has he being doing for us post retirement?
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08-15-2022, 07:19 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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We are too young of a franchise to have so many numbers retired.
Clubs should have a ring of honour (like what the Canucks have) for long time greats or long serving members, like Backlund, Regehr, Giordano, etc.
Retirements are for very special players. So special that they were often considered the best at their position league wide for multiple years, or have become iconic in some other way.
The Flames should only have three retired shirts: #12, #2, #9.
Flames that should be in a ring of honour type of program: #25, #34, #5, #14, #30, #11, #28, potentially #23 if he recovers and sticks around. Johnny gets no such legacy as he left early.
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08-15-2022, 07:26 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Giordano's a shoo-in.
Kiprusoff is probably a scheduling challenge; he's pretty reclusive these days, spending his time largely out of the limelight.
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08-15-2022, 07:37 PM
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#37
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
We are too young of a franchise to have so many numbers retired.
Clubs should have a ring of honour (like what the Canucks have) for long time greats or long serving members, like Backlund, Regehr, Giordano, etc.
Retirements are for very special players. So special that they were often considered the best at their position league wide for multiple years, or have become iconic in some other way.
The Flames should only have three retired shirts: #12, #2, #9.
Flames that should be in a ring of honour type of program: #25, #34, #5, #14, #30, #11, #28, potentially #23 if he recovers and sticks around. Johnny gets no such legacy as he left early.
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Again, we're likely the stingiest in the entire league besides the Penguins
We came into the league in 1972 and currently only have 3 numbers retired. Below are the number of retired jersey's franchises from 1968-1994 have (including numbers re-issued due to relocation):
1967-68
Flyers - 6
Penguins - 2
Blues - 8
North Stars/Stars - 6
Kings - 7
1970-71
Canucks - 6
Sabres - 8
1972-73
Islanders - 8
1974-75
Capitals - 4
Kansas City/Colorado/NJ - 5
1979-80
Oilers - 8
Whales/Hurricanes - 6
Jets/Coyotes - 3
Nordiques/Avalanche - 10
1991-92
Sharks - 1
1992-93
Senators - 3
Lightning - 2
1993-94
Panthers - 3
Ducks - 3
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08-15-2022, 07:59 PM
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#38
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Nov 2016
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#'s 2, 5, 14, 34 should be up.
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08-15-2022, 10:28 PM
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#39
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
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Need more than one cup before we start decorating the rafters.
The current bar is high, I like it that way.
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08-15-2022, 11:20 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Giordano, the guy who didn't win one playoff series in the Flames lineup is not getting his jersey retired.
Neither is bat#### crazy Theo
honestly I highly doubt anyone does for a LONG time
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