Great thread btw. So rare we can talk strategy where basically everyone has a valid opinion without getting ruined by the “eye test” or advanced stats, there’s varied opinions, it can’t be ruined by advance stats, the “you’ve obviously never played” jerks and the “coaches know better than you or it’d already have changed” can’t use those excuses and it’s not so complex that discussion is useless without a whiteboard. Just pure hockey talk. And best of all, no advanced stats.
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As I said in the game thread, I would prefer going for a stick or replacement player in that situation, but reflecting on some of the discussion here, I would agree that covering the point man more closely is a valid alternative. Basically, anything is better than what Dube did, even the snow angels suggestion.
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From the goaltender perspective I want my player to go to a point man and be disruptive.
If you can get in a lane fine but don't try unless you can block the shot/pass. (aka don't screen me) I'll try and get a whistle if I can. I will also tell my guys to ice it if need be. We'll deal with the D zone face off after that.
Just don't blow the D zone and leave open a clean one-timer.
Get down on all fours and start barking like a wild dog at the nearest opposing player. This will be so distracting for the opposing team that they will forget about the puck, allowing a teammate to steal it and go down the ice on an uncontested break away.
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Only use wood sticks when protecting the lead, or killing a penalty. Golfers have different clubs for different purposes.
I actually love this idea and it never dawned on me. I doubt there is any NHL rule against wood sticks.
Well-made wood sticks still have flex and the "snap" that gets quick releases and hard wristers. They aren't the bulky ass heavy things the Rocket used to use.
They are quite light, although admittedly not as light as composites these days. In the dying minutes of the game though, as a player or coach, I'd rather have a wood stick to protect the lead.
Get down on all fours and start barking like a wild dog at the nearest opposing player. This will be so distracting for the opposing team that they will forget about the puck, allowing a teammate to steal it and go down the ice on an uncontested break away.
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Put me in the crowd of going back to the bench for a new stick or a new player. The amount of time this takes is less than most people think and it forces the opposition to notice this and take advantage in that small window. If you stay out on the ice, it gives the other team time to notice and exploit the advantage.
Basically, a bigger advantage for 5-6 seconds is likely harder to capitalize on rather than a small advantage for more than 6 seconds
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I think it is very difficult in today's NHL to cover a defenceman - without a stick - at the point without taking a penalty. I'm not a good hockey player, but whenever this happens in my beer league and I'm the defenceman being covered by a forward who has lost his stick, it's always a load of fun.
I get that the known strategy here is to stay on the ice, dog the defenceman, or try and block a shot. But if you're trying to be all over defenceman, you aren't going to be able to block a shot, and if you're trying to block a shot, you're still a pylon.
For my money, I'd take my chances getting off the ice or getting a new stick. But I don't think there's a coach alive who would agree with me.
Grab the goalies stick! He's got other stuff he can make a save with and you will have a massive blade to block the shot, skate down the ice and fire a backhand that no goalie in the world could guess where the puck will go.
I was yelling at the TV for Dube to go to the bench yesterday so that’s where I stand. Don’t go right away if there is a chance for a hit or block and your teammates need to be aware but get to the bench as soon as reasonably possible.
As an aside what about when a goalie’s stick breaks, should a skater hand over their stick? I’d say no. Better to fully defend and ice the puck.
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Another point to add: if you're skating straight to the bench from your defensive zone to get a new stick, the other team's defense need to play more conservatively, similar to when a penalty expires and a player is coming out of the box behind your defense.
A bad turnover in the offensive zone will lead to a breakaway (similar to when a player is coming out of the box).
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Suppose it depends on the goaltender. Personally I handled the puck enough to make Mike Smith jealous so every practice/scrimmage I would spend a fair amount of time practicing without a stick for the inevitable situation of me losing it or it breaking because of how active I was so I told my players not to hand me theirs. (Habit a coach in midget got me on and I taught it in camps as well.) I assume I am in the minority there because if you don't practice it it's very awkward for the goaltender to lose theirs.
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I was yelling at the TV for Dube to go to the bench yesterday so that’s where I stand. Don’t go right away if there is a chance for a hit or block and your teammates need to be aware but get to the bench as soon as reasonably possible.
As an aside what about when a goalie’s stick breaks, should a skater hand over their stick? I’d say no. Better to fully defend and ice the puck.
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Pull a Matthew Tkachuk and take a stick from an opposing team's player. We'd probably get a penalty, but Rieder will have a chance at another SHG. :shrug:
so every practice/scrimmage I would spend a fair amount of time practicing without a stick for the inevitable situation of me losing it or it breaking because of how active I was so I told my players not to hand me theirs. (Habit a coach in midget got me on and I taught it in camps as well.) I assume I am in the minority there because if you don't practice it it's very awkward for the goaltender to lose theirs.
