Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I love how Edmonton fans keep overrating Nurse. Guy is a dman with no offensive updside and is just ok defensively. He's basically Mike Stone but younger. And they want to lock that up to $5M+ long term? Lol, you keep doing you Oiler fans.

On the Oilers roster everyone looks like a top-pairing defenseman.

[McG]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

On the Oilers roster everyone looks like a top-pairing defenseman.

6 Giordanos will do that!

[stemit14]

From what I’ve heard on some of the Hanifin threads, the oilers only have around $3 to 4 million in cap space. Is there any rumour as to what the oilers are looking to do to sign nurse? Have they just conceded that they have not choice but to bridge him or are they going to do something to make cap space for him to sign long-term?


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[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I love how Edmonton fans keep overrating Nurse. Guy is a dman with no offensive updside and is just ok defensively. He's basically Mike Stone but younger. And they want to lock that up to $5M+ long term? Lol, you keep doing you Oiler fans.

I’m gonna disagree.

I hate Edmonton and everything about them, but Nurse looks like a solid top 4 defenseman. He has to be the top pairing defender with Edmonton because they have no one else.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by stemit14

From what I’ve heard on some of the Hanifin threads, the oilers only have around $3 to 4 million in cap space. Is there any rumour as to what the oilers are looking to do to sign nurse? Have they just conceded that they have not choice but to bridge him or are they going to do something to make cap space for him to sign long-term?


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A bridge deal could very conceivably eat up all of their remaining $3.98 m of cap space, and this remains a likely outcome. However, if the Oilers do choose to sign Nurse long term, then I suspect they will move one or two players like Puljujarvi and Koskinen to the minors to start the season, trigger Sekera's LTIR cap relief, and then recall them at the latest in time for Game #2. The trick will then be to manage the salary cap later in the season in the event that Sekera returns from injury. If this happens, they will likely need to eat some player value in a bad trade to make room for a rehabilitating player they would probably prefer to leave shelved for the year.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I’m gonna disagree.

I hate Edmonton and everything about them, but Nurse looks like a solid top 4 defenseman. He has to be the top pairing defender with Edmonton because they have no one else.

And I’m going to disagree with your estimation. Nurse gets walked more than any other defenseman in the league. He’s a liability out there for most of the game. You need a stud to play with him, or he hurts you more than he helps. He reminds me of Phaeuf after he screwed up his hip and was barely able to get around. Nurse’s weakness is under his helmet, and I don’t see him ever getting past that.

[topfiverecords]

I hope Nurse doesn’t accept a bridge deal because that’s the best case for the Oilers when he fails to live up to his expectations.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by New Era

And I’m going to disagree with your estimation. Nurse gets walked more than any other defenseman in the league. He’s a liability out there for most of the game. You need a stud to play with him, or he hurts you more than he helps. He reminds me of Phaeuf after he screwed up his hip and was barely able to get around. Nurse’s weakness is under his helmet, and I don’t see him ever getting past that.

Nurse looked so much better when Reinhart was getting walked on the other side.

Part of me wants him to hold out and not play the first couple games so it messes with the amount cap LTIR space they get.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I’m gonna disagree.

I hate Edmonton and everything about them, but Nurse looks like a solid top 4 defenseman. He has to be the top pairing defender with Edmonton because they have no one else.

I think Nurse looks like a guy who would be a middling pair dman, but an average one. So pretty much Mike Stone, with maybe a tad more upside. He's like a bigger Chris Russell without the offense. I would say Russell's probably actually higher in hockey IQ.

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I think Nurse looks like a guy who would be a middling pair dman, but an average one. So pretty much Mike Stone, with maybe a tad more upside. He's like a bigger Chris Russell without the offense. I would say Russell's probably actually higher in hockey IQ.

So like a more defensive Joe Colborne.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

If this happens, they will likely need to eat some player value in a bad trade to make room for a rehabilitating player they would probably prefer to leave shelved for the year.

In Edmonton they just call these trades.

[Kipper is King]

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...uy-is-edmonton

This in from Buffalo, New York sports radio host Joe DiBiase of WGR550, his take that Connor McDavid should not be with the Edmonton Oilers for the good of the game.

[Saqe]

Over 60% of Oiler fans on HFboards think they'll make the playoffs.

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Over 60% of Oiler fans on HFboards think they'll make the playoffs.

I would've guessed higher to be honest

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by TheoFleury

I would've guessed higher to be honest

Considering it's close to zero at least based on their roster, over 60 % is a quite the leap !

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Over 60% of Oiler fans on HFboards think they'll make the playoffs.

The sane ones are no longer Oiler fans.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Kipper is King

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...uy-is-edmonton

This might be the most embarrassing column of David Staples's storied basement-blogging career:

Originally Posted by David Staples

"It can be that a smaller, more industrial and northern city can attain a certain mystique and be a massive draw in sports, as big as a team in any other city. Exhibit A in this is Manchester and Manchester United. United is one of the biggest sports teams on earth. ManU rivals teams in every other European city for value and popularity. When Manchester United is on TV, the entire world watches. It’s done this by having sustained success and also by being something of an exemplar of rugged, aggressive but also successful British soccer, at least in the popular imagination.
"The Oilers were on this same path to massive popularity in the 1980s, then owner Peter Pocklington sold away Wayne Gretzky and Mark Messier. If that had not happened, the Oilers might well have won three or four more Stanley Cups in the 1990s and now be seen as the Manchester United of the hockey world...
"There’s a chance that with players like McDavid, Leon Draisaitl and others that Edmonton can get winning again and build up a certain mystique and widespread popularity around this current Oilers team...smaller market teams can grab the attention of the sporting world. The Oilers have that chance."

"The memory of the Gretzky and the 1980s success is fading, but there’s a lingering mystique around the franchise, a narrative already in place about cold, isolated Edmonton burning hot with the purest of hockey experiences because of a great team led to great heights by a generational superstar. Got something of a right to it, no? That fuse can be lit again and that fairy tale story can again take centre stage in the hockey world. I’ll argue it would be almost as good for the NHL as it is for Edmonton."

My god. What drivel.

My take:

1. Edmonton is no good.
2. Comparing Canada's armpit to the second largest metropolis in the United Kingdom is beyond laughable. Comparing the Edmonton Oilers to the Manchester United—perhaps the most storied and recognizable sports franchise in the entire world—defies any semblance of reason.
3. Edmonton's memories of Gretzky and the 1980s success is absolutely NOT fading. Good lord. If anything, these memories are becoming fabrications of overactive imaginations that have been starved of success for such a long time there is nothing left to grasp onto.
4. There is so much cheese in this blog-post that it practically dwarfs the surplus of dairy products in the US.
5. David Staples is a cartoon character. I am starting to doubt that he is actually a real person.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Comparing Canada's armpit to the second largest metropolis in the United Kingdom is beyond laughable. Comparing the Edmonton Oilers to the Manchester United—perhaps the most storied and recognizable sports franchise in the entire world defies any semblance of reason.[/LIST]

1. Edmonton's memories of Gretzky and the 1980s success is absolutely NOT fading. Good lord. If anything, these memories are becoming fabrications of overactive imaginations that have been starved of success for such a long time there is nothing left to grasp onto.

1. There is so much cheese in this blog-post that it practically dwarfs the surplus of dairy products in the US.

1. David Staples is a cartoon character. I am starting to doubt that he is actually a real person.

[Reggie Dunlop]

If *shudder* the Toronto Maple Leafs ever string together a few Stanley Cups (not outside the realm of possibilities, sadly), they'll completely blow away any remaining mystique surrounding the '80s Oilers.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

If *shudder* the Toronto Maple Leafs ever string together a few Stanley Cups (not outside the realm of possibilities, sadly), they'll completely blow away any remaining mystique surrounding the '80s Oilers.

The only "mystique" surrounding Edmonton resides entirely within the city limits of Edmonton. Everyone else in the world sees that sad, little backwater for what it is.