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Old 01-19-2019, 02:17 PM   #6721
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I wonder if 6 was ever on the table and for what value. My thought is the deals on offer were 2yrs x 10 per and 8 x pencil in the number you want but if it’s real big it will hurt the teammates we can sign.

If I’m the oilers I’m not giving him 6. So in that scenario you have to take the 100 million over the 20 and if it gets bad you force your way out of Edmonton.

McDavid made the only sensible choice when signing that contract.
Hard to say.

McDavid could have waited until the expiry of his ELC before signing a new deal... As a RFA, your options really are to hold out like Nylander and force the issue, or hopes someone offer sheets him to force the Oilers hand.

The Oilers were a desperate team that needed to sign McDavid, period.

Both Johnny and Monny signed 6 year deals, so I am not sure why McDavid's agent couldn't have negotiated that...

again, all speculation at this point...McDavid made his deal, now he'll just have to settle in for the long haul unless he demands a trade...
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Old 01-19-2019, 03:07 PM   #6722
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Hard to say.

McDavid could have waited until the expiry of his ELC before signing a new deal... As a RFA, your options really are to hold out like Nylander and force the issue, or hopes someone offer sheets him to force the Oilers hand.

The Oilers were a desperate team that needed to sign McDavid, period.

Both Johnny and Monny signed 6 year deals, so I am not sure why McDavid's agent couldn't have negotiated that...

again, all speculation at this point...McDavid made his deal, now he'll just have to settle in for the long haul unless he demands a trade...
I think McDavid honestly believed in 2017 that the Oilers were on the rise to being a perennial Stanley Cup contender. It goes to show just how myopically tunnel-visioned even the best players in the world can be about their teams; especially players who are only 20-years old.


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Old 01-19-2019, 03:21 PM   #6723
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Hard to say.

McDavid could have waited until the expiry of his ELC before signing a new deal... As a RFA, your options really are to hold out like Nylander and force the issue, or hopes someone offer sheets him to force the Oilers hand.

The Oilers were a desperate team that needed to sign McDavid, period.

Both Johnny and Monny signed 6 year deals, so I am not sure why McDavid's agent couldn't have negotiated that...

again, all speculation at this point...McDavid made his deal, now he'll just have to settle in for the long haul unless he demands a trade...
That’s just it though to extract a 6 year deal he would have had to wait a year. When someone offers you 100 million with zero risk you need a pretty compelling option not to take it.
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Hard to say.

McDavid could have waited until the expiry of his ELC before signing a new deal... As a RFA, your options really are to hold out like Nylander and force the issue, or hopes someone offer sheets him to force the Oilers hand.

The Oilers were a desperate team that needed to sign McDavid, period.

Both Johnny and Monny signed 6 year deals, so I am not sure why McDavid's agent couldn't have negotiated that...

again, all speculation at this point...McDavid made his deal, now he'll just have to settle in for the long haul unless he demands a trade...

Sean Monahan signed a 7 year contract, Johnny Gaudreau signed for only 6 years.
They both become UFAs at age 29.
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Old 01-19-2019, 07:30 PM   #6725
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I think McDavid's representation did him, and the NHLPA, a massive disservice by signing that contract. They should have gone five years and the absolute max available. End of story. McDavid sets the standard, and achieves unrestricted free agency at his earliest convenience. This has nothing to do with Edmonton, and everything to do with maxing out the market.
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Old 01-19-2019, 08:40 PM   #6727
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I think McDavid's representation did him, and the NHLPA, a massive disservice by signing that contract. They should have gone five years and the absolute max available. End of story. McDavid sets the standard, and achieves unrestricted free agency at his earliest convenience. This has nothing to do with Edmonton, and everything to do with maxing out the market.
This only makes sense in an uncapped market.

In a capped market every dollar paid to McDavid isn’t paid to other members of the NHLPA. It should not matter to the PA what anyone gets paid.
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Old 01-19-2019, 10:03 PM   #6729
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This only makes sense in an uncapped market.

In a capped market every dollar paid to McDavid isn’t paid to other members of the NHLPA. It should not matter to the PA what anyone gets paid.
You know that the PA is actual players though, and you know that everyone gets benchmarked. If i'm Tkachuk, I'm not okay taking less money because McDavid took less than fair market.
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You know that the PA is actual players though, and you know that everyone gets benchmarked. If i'm Tkachuk, I'm not okay taking less money because McDavid took less than fair market.
Only because their stupid. The vast majority of the PA is not Tkachuk and McDavid. They are the 2nd/3rd/4th and bubble players. The more the stars get laid the less the bulk of the PA get paid.
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I want the Flames to win this game decisively tonight, especially because the Oilers and their fan base get all riled up for the BOA, since it’s the only thing they have left.

I will always despise the Oilers and will forever proclaim their no-goodness, but I think it’s time that the Flames demonstrate their superiority so that we can stop being used as a benchmark for The Great Mess To The North.

I don’t care about “reinvigorating the 80’s BOA”, because, for one thing, it could never be that great again, but mostly because I don’t want the Oilers to be competitive or win anything ever again, be that a playoff position, another draft lottery, or hell, even another game for that matter. Let them forever walk in 9th place NHL purgatory.

Mostly, I want this team to once-and-for-all exorcise the demons that Gulutzan planted in their heads about the Oilers and especially McDavid. I want the Flames to look at the Oilers less as a “chief rival” and more as just another bottom-third NHL team from which we should routinely take points.

Back-to-backs be damned. Let’s just crush them.
Okay, Flames. Okay.
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