Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-20-2017, 03:24 PM   #61
Textcritic
Acerbic Cyberbully
 
Textcritic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eyipyip View Post
Gradreau is going to get a few billions dollars if he sues for every slash he gets this season
Gaudreau is not a linesman. I expect that there is a different assumption of risk on the part of players.
__________________
Dealing with Everything from Dead Sea Scrolls to Red C Trolls

Quote:
Originally Posted by woob
"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
"The Lying Pen of Scribes" Ancient Manuscript Forgeries Project
Textcritic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:26 PM   #62
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default

Rick Westhead‏Verified account @rwesthead
In NHL linesman Don Henderson’s lawsuit vs Calgary Flames and Dennis Wideman, the Alberta govt is also listed as a plaintiff.

Rick Westhead‏Verified account @rwesthead
AB govt wants Wideman and Flames to cover cost of Henderson’s dental surgery, optometric, mental health, chiropractic, podiatrist services.

THANKS NDP
sureLoss is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 11 Users Say Thank You to sureLoss For This Useful Post:
Old 04-20-2017, 03:28 PM   #63
oldschoolcalgary
Franchise Player
 
oldschoolcalgary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Exp:
Default

oh boy... the gift that keeps on giving...
oldschoolcalgary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:29 PM   #64
bubbsy
Franchise Player
 
bubbsy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle View Post
Why the Flames? Because they are his employer? Shouldn't he be suing the NHL?
ya, i don't get that either.

When a player gets injured (ie. all these concussion related law suits) are taken against the league, not the team the player played for.

why is it any different for this referee situation?
bubbsy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:30 PM   #65
FlamesAddiction
Franchise Player
 
FlamesAddiction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob View Post
yeah, he is almost 49. I guess because of this he can't get that job would pay him 625k a year. Probably 4 times what he was making while a linesman (if he was at the top end for a linesman)
The rumour was that the union was pressuring him to retire even before the incident. I am pretty sure there is a story about that somewhere.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
FlamesAddiction is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to FlamesAddiction For This Useful Post:
Old 04-20-2017, 03:30 PM   #66
Looch City
Looooooooooooooch
 
Looch City's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:
Default

The city? The NDP? This is just hilarious. I need to grab my popcorn!
Looch City is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Looch City For This Useful Post:
Old 04-20-2017, 03:31 PM   #67
AltaGuy
AltaGuy has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy, which is infectious to those around him. He has an unparalleled ability to communicate with people, whether he is speaking to a room of three or an arena of 30,000.
 
AltaGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: At le pub...
Exp:
Default

I think the Flames had likely asked this to be delayed until the season was over so they can effectively throw Wideman under the bus in their SoD. Unlike the Bertuzzi incident, the Flames were never involved in the actual event: yes, they may be sued by Wideman for events after the hit, but that was going to happen anyway.

The officiating/NHL will support the Flames; but it will be interesting to see what the NHLPA thinks of it when the Flames call Wideman a lone wolf and create distance between him and the organization.
AltaGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:31 PM   #68
Robbob
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Exp:
Default

dental surgery?
Robbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:32 PM   #69
Looch City
Looooooooooooooch
 
Looch City's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss View Post
Rick Westhead @rwesthead
Breaking: NHL linesman Don Henderson has filed a $10.25M lawsuit v Calgary Flames D Dennis Wideman, @TSN_Sports and @CTVNews have learned.

Timing suggests he was waiting for Wideman's season to end before filing.
And he conspired with the refs to make sure it was quick.

Conspiracy done and unfolded.
Looch City is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Looch City For This Useful Post:
Old 04-20-2017, 03:32 PM   #70
oldschoolcalgary
Franchise Player
 
oldschoolcalgary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy View Post
ya, i don't get that either.

When a player gets injured (ie. all these concussion related law suits) are taken against the league, not the team the player played for.

why is it any different for this referee situation?
classic lawyering... no offense to any lawyers out there...

i thought the rule of thumb was to sue everyone and let the courts figure it out...
oldschoolcalgary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:33 PM   #71
Frequitude
Franchise Player
 
Frequitude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 555 Saddledome Rise SE
Exp:
Default

Please, Flames. Do not fight this. Settle immediately.

Burke and Treliving fighting for Wideman on appeal was the biggest mistakes of their tenures. They should have told Wideman to sit down, shut up, say sorry, and accept the punishment.
Frequitude is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Frequitude For This Useful Post:
Old 04-20-2017, 03:34 PM   #72
MarkGio
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer View Post
I'm pretty sure it's the responsibility of the Referee, not the linesman, to make the judgement of a penalty and blow the play dead in the event of an injury.
For a second I was thinking Henderson was a ref
MarkGio is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MarkGio For This Useful Post:
Old 04-20-2017, 03:35 PM   #73
Ashasx
Franchise Player
 
Ashasx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frequitude View Post
Please, Flames. Do not fight this. Settle immediately.

Burke and Treliving fighting for Wideman on appeal was the biggest mistakes of their tenures. They should have told Wideman to sit down, shut up, say sorry, and accept the punishment.
The Flames had to support their player.

Good luck attracting anyone to the team if the team doesn't support players in these kinds of situation.

Whether or not they actually support Wideman doesn't matter. Their hands were tied.
Ashasx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:36 PM   #74
Badgers Nose
Franchise Player
 
Badgers Nose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx View Post
Well they won't win because Wideman hadn't been back on the bench for the Flames to test him before Henderson was hit.
Good point. So why name the Flames? Is he still concussed?
Badgers Nose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:38 PM   #75
Backlunds_socks
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Exp:
Default

this is quite the cluster fudge. I hope this also ends the wideman effect.
Backlunds_socks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:38 PM   #76
CaptainCrunch
Norm!
 
CaptainCrunch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss View Post
Rick Westhead‏Verified account @rwesthead
In NHL linesman Don Henderson’s lawsuit vs Calgary Flames and Dennis Wideman, the Alberta govt is also listed as a plaintiff.

Rick Westhead‏Verified account @rwesthead
AB govt wants Wideman and Flames to cover cost of Henderson’s dental surgery, optometric, mental health, chiropractic, podiatrist services.

THANKS NDP
Wait a minute.

He had neck surgery for two ruptured disks there was nothing about dental eye or foot injuries, yet the Flames are being put on the hook for those?

Get stuffed, this sounds like a fishing trip all of a sudden by his lawyers.

Ow my eyes, my feet, my fallen arches. I also had to get rabies shots.

Oh and my psychiatrist says that I'm suffering from nightmares and pee my self all the time. Give me money.

I have all the sympathy in the world for him, he had two ruptured discs repaired. But come on man. He wasn't run over by a tank.
__________________
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;

Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
CaptainCrunch is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to CaptainCrunch For This Useful Post:
Old 04-20-2017, 03:38 PM   #77
oldschoolcalgary
Franchise Player
 
oldschoolcalgary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AltaGuy View Post
I think the Flames had likely asked this to be delayed until the season was over so they can effectively throw Wideman under the bus in their SoD. Unlike the Bertuzzi incident, the Flames were never involved in the actual event: yes, they may be sued by Wideman for events after the hit, but that was going to happen anyway.

The officiating/NHL will support the Flames; but it will be interesting to see what the NHLPA thinks of it when the Flames call Wideman a lone wolf and create distance between him and the organization.
wait, "thrown under the bus"?!

Let's be very clear here: Wideman was a lone wolf. He got nailed in the corner, got up pissed headed to the bench where he proceeded to nail Henderson.

No where do I see the Flames organization, GM, or coach... unless you're suggesting Hartley was prescient enough to forecast and uncalled cheapshot and challenge Wideman to assault a linesman after it went uncalled.

Last edited by oldschoolcalgary; 04-20-2017 at 03:41 PM.
oldschoolcalgary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:40 PM   #78
Frequitude
Franchise Player
 
Frequitude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 555 Saddledome Rise SE
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx View Post
The Flames had to support their player.

Good luck attracting anyone to the team if the team doesn't support players in these kinds of situation.

Whether or not they actually support Wideman doesn't matter. Their hands were tied.
I get that sentiment, but disagree in this case. There was nothing to support. The only thing that was going to come out of it was pissing off all the referees and linesman.
Frequitude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:40 PM   #79
Ashasx
Franchise Player
 
Ashasx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose View Post
Good point. So why name the Flames? Is he still concussed?
Seems pretty standard to include the employer, seeing as it happened while Wideman was working for the Flames.
Ashasx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 03:41 PM   #80
Locke
Franchise Player
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss View Post
Rick Westhead‏Verified account @rwesthead
In NHL linesman Don Henderson’s lawsuit vs Calgary Flames and Dennis Wideman, the Alberta govt is also listed as a plaintiff.

Rick Westhead‏Verified account @rwesthead
AB govt wants Wideman and Flames to cover cost of Henderson’s dental surgery, optometric, mental health, chiropractic, podiatrist services.

THANKS NDP
Hm...thats interesting. So now the Government wants to pick and choose who has to pick up the tab for Universal Health Care?
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!

This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.

If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a Fire Exit. - Mitch Hedberg
Locke is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:01 AM.

Calgary Flames
2023-24




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021