Yeah its been getting savaged in the reviews, with a lot of comparisons to a badly done Guardians of the Galaxy.
I'm probably still going to go see it, because I love the idea of bad guys uniting as the core part of a movie, but I certainly won't go on opening weekend.
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I can't disagree more. This is a comic book movie. Some degree of fun is required. All action movies, except maybe historical war movies, are ridiculous in their nature.
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I dunno....Putting "fun" in a comic book movie just for the sake of it is a huge mistake IMO. There are plenty of dark comic book movies that get by totally on storyline. Very dark examples would be "the Crow" or "the Watchmen". Less dark examples would be the Nolan Batman films.
The thing about "Fun" is that it only works with certain characters. Forcing non-fun characters to be fun by giving them "quips" is just intolerable. It works with Tony Stark or Peter Quill, but not with guys like Batman or Captain America. They can get away with the occasional dry remark, but anything more is just cringy.
The major flaw with the new DC movies so far is that they are trying to do too much. Adding in comedy into an already busy movie to lighten the tone is a mistake. If you want to make the movie better, you just need to simplify the story.
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Man you would hope with great characters like Harley Quinn and the Joker that DC could put on a good show but it seems like DC is incapable of rivalling Marvel who seem to be able to take lesser heroes like Ant Man and still do a better job than DC can handle it's best superheroes. I still stand by my opinion that this movie would have been better as a more mature R rated film.
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I dunno....Putting "fun" in a comic book movie just for the sake of it is a huge mistake IMO. There are plenty of dark comic book movies that get by totally on storyline. Very dark examples would be "the Crow" or "the Watchmen". Less dark examples would be the Nolan Batman films.
The thing about "Fun" is that it only works with certain characters. Forcing non-fun characters to be fun by giving them "quips" is just intolerable. It works with Tony Stark or Peter Quill, but not with guys like Batman or Captain America. They can get away with the occasional dry remark, but anything more is just cringy.
The major flaw with the new DC movies so far is that they are trying to do too much. Adding in comedy into an already busy movie to lighten the tone is a mistake. If you want to make the movie better, you just need to simplify the story.
See I think of it as taking the fun out, versus putting it in. The Dark Knight movies were good, but that's it. All the other dark superhero movies are dumb. I think the Dark Knight movies worked because they focused on a guy without powers and minimized the supernatural elements overall. However, no matter what the goth kids said, the Crow was stupid and I just didn't get Watchmen. They went on and on about how naked blueman got his powers, but never explained how other guys had superhuman speed or a magically changing mask. Also, was I really suppose to feel for the murdering rapists? I just can't take guys in costumes seriously.
You can go too far the other way (see Batman's 2 thru 4). Those ones forced the silliness. The good superhero movies have a balance.
Sitting at 37%. That explains why they embargoed reviews for so long. At what point does DC just stop trying?
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Yeah I'm going to ahead and guess that despite the good trailers, Wonder Woman and Justice League are going to suck too.
Justice League is going to suck for sure. They are going to try so hard to force Aquaman into being cool and fail miserably. Plus no one is going to be surprised when Superman comes back from the dead. I'm still holding out hope for Wonder Woman. If they just copy Captain America they should be okay. The Batman assault on Arkham movie could be good if they just make it a pure action movie without any bruting.
Unfortunate, but not surprising. I guess some of the "SNYDER(S) IS(ARE) RUINING DC" can be removed now, or should we update it to "SNYDER(S) AND AYER ARE RUINING DC'.
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See I think of it as taking the fun out, versus putting it in. The Dark Knight movies were good, but that's it. All the other dark superhero movies are dumb. I think the Dark Knight movies worked because they focused on a guy without powers and minimized the supernatural elements overall. However, no matter what the goth kids said, the Crow was stupid and I just didn't get Watchmen. They went on and on about how naked blueman got his powers, but never explained how other guys had superhuman speed or a magically changing mask. Also, was I really suppose to feel for the murdering rapists? I just can't take guys in costumes seriously.
You can go too far the other way (see Batman's 2 thru 4). Those ones forced the silliness. The good superhero movies have a balance.
To each his own. I'm beginning to find this latest round of Marvel movies unwatchable and repetitive. Guardians was both great and fun, but that's what the source material lent itself too.
I think the issue I'm having is with hollywood's portrayal of the "comic book" movie. There's no such thing as a genre of "comic book". Comic books can come in ever genre. Just because a film was adapted from a comic book, that does not mean it has to always fit in the "fun" genre. I'd also being "fun" and lighthearted are not the same thing. For example, the fist Sin City was a lot of fun, but not anything remotely lighthearted. You can still have a fun movie without resorted to loads of quips.
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To each his own. I'm beginning to find this latest round of Marvel movies unwatchable and repetitive. Guardians was both great and fun, but that's what the source material lent itself too.
Fans of the Guardians comics before the movie routinely lament how the movie destroyed the characterizations of the characters they loved, and how the comics have changed to reflect the movies.
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Watched Guardians of the Galaxy again on the weekend, and I wondered why they have even bothered to make more superhero movies.
It was a relatively obscure comic book that only ran for 25 issues between 2008 and 2010....unless you're talking about the 1960s version, which was an entirely different thing, in which case it was the new comic book that spoiled that first.
No, I'm talking about the new run. The 2008 series ran for 25 issues, and another started in 2013 that ran for 27 issues plus an annual. The movie came out midway through the second series.
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