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[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Unfortunately we're stuck with a LW that was enormously over-rated for another right years and a $2 million goalie that we're paying $6 million.

things can change

to this point, Huberdeau is playing like a 6-7 million dollar player in the modern NHL, which is on par with his current AAV

Kadri is near his value by the current NHL model as well

if Huberdeau doesn't settle in/elevate next year when his AAV rises, then we can talk about overrated

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

He offered $10.5M to Gaudreau and he decided to leave.

My guess is he offered that same exact $10.5M to Tkachuk who then also decided to leave.

I dont think it was penny pinching that caused these guys to leave.

I never said it was an issue with why those guys left. It’s an issue perhaps with the people that are left…

[memphusk]

My goodness. What if he regressed again next season. Yuck.

[zamler]

Can we please have exactly the same lineup and lines for say 5 games in a row? Including Vladar in net. Ride it out, see where you are.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I really thought the supporting cast to Tkachuk and Gaudreau was a lot better than it actually was

turns out I was fooled, like many

also we were EXTEMELY reliant on Gaudreau transitioning the puck for us. maybe should've given some other players some reps at it to prepare for such a time when he might leave

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by zamler

Can we please have exactly the same lineup and lines for say 5 games in a row? Including Vladar in net. Ride it out, see where you are.

Yep. Leave it how it ended for the forward group. Pelletier was fun to watch.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by zamler

Can we please have exactly the same lineup and lines for say 5 games in a row? Including Vladar in net. Ride it out, see where you are.

Back 2 Back. The goalie currently playing 2nd best got the easier match up on paper. The better of the two will play in the game that will have a slightly higher impact in your division race.

Pretty consistent stuff from the coaching staff.

[NewFan]

Is GM staying with the team in the next couple of years? Is he allowed to make a big trade or spend the draft picks? Or he can try last time to win and allowed to do everything to make this team better next 1 month?

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

For the record, I think Tre made the right moves in the summer. It was undeniably great work by him.

But it’s just not clicking for the organization this year. The players are underperforming. The coach is mired in a bit of a stubborn fog that he’ll only see clearly after an offseason.

Let the players work through it. Don’t bother trading a 5th for a depth defenseman or whatever. That’s not going to move the needle and it would just be pointless.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by zamler

Can we please have exactly the same lineup and lines for say 5 games in a row? Including Vladar in net. Ride it out, see where you are.

same line up (Pelletier on 2RW), Vladar in net

5 straight games

it would be the perfect measuring stick, because that's the best group and combinations this team is going to ice

then management would know where this team is at, and exactly how far away they are. can approach the TDL accordingly

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by btimbit

I'm not even mad, just embarrassed.

Hopefully serves as a wake up call

How the hell aren't they awake already? It's halfway thru the season. What are they waiting for?

The Flames are a mediocre team. They've had way too many games this season where you can say they've come out flat, or lack finish. They're not threatening at all. Not enough enough skill. Not enough discipline.

Tanev is just ONE player. The defense shouldn't play like they've never played the sport before. The defense that's suppose to be one of the best in the league is very overated.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Lidstrom

That team had how many nhlers vs all the nhlers on our team?

Pelletier is a good player. Shame it took management so long to bring him up.

Of all of the newbies I think Duehr and Pelletier have looked the most promising.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Back 2 Back. The goalie currently playing 2nd best got the easier match up on paper. The better of the two will play in the game that will have a slightly higher impact in your division race.

Pretty consistent stuff from the coaching staff.

But then they will take 9 day break and come back with Markstrom. Maybe that's what he needs.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

For the record, I think Tre made the right moves in the summer. It was undeniably great work by him.

But it’s just not clicking for the organization this year. The players are underperforming. The coach is mired in a bit of a stubborn fog that he’ll only see clearly after an offseason.

Let the players work through it. Don’t bother trading a 5th for a depth defenseman or whatever. That’s not going to move the needle and it would just be pointless.

if they're above the playoff line at the TDL I'd say they've earned depth help at D

if it's for a 6th or whatever it's maybe worth stomaching

if they're treading water in 10th, forget it

[Goriders]

The positive side of this is I thought there was no way they would lose this game (so guaranteed loss) and tomorrow I thought there’s no way they will win (so they will).

That’s textbook Flames.

[Circa89]

It could have been worse, much worse. Grant Fuhr could have been the Goalie and top Defencemen and Captain was Steve Smith… and Cassie Campbell was on the Colour desk!

Look on the bright side of https://www.hhof.com/graphinduct/ind03_fuhr05.jpg

[Goriders]

Other than Huberdeau’s goal Zadorov might have generated the most offense in the 3rd.

[LTH]

I hardly pay attention anymore..... but did we just get sh1t kicked 5-1 by the worst team?



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[Sec214]

Originally Posted by memphusk

But then they will take 9 day break and come back with Markstrom. Maybe that's what he needs.

If that’s what you think he needs, then I respect your opinion.

This player’s mental fortitude appears broken. No confidence from his teammates, it’s clear with all the over compensating when he’s in net which makes him over compensate in his game... There is a thing called concentrated effort and when Markstrom is in net this team is not doing that.

Is this because of the teams confidence in the goalie? The goalies lack of confidence in his team? A lack of self confidence? A combination?

[zamler]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

same line up (Pelletier on 2RW), Vladar in net

5 straight games

it would be the perfect measuring stick, because that's the best group and combinations this team is going to ice

then management would know where this team is at, and exactly how far away they are. can approach the TDL accordingly

Yes. Exactly.

This jiggering around endlessly is not working. I know I can't possibly critique a 2 Cup winner in any way but.........maybe could use a tiny bit of stability.