2022/2023 English Premier League

[Barnet Flame]

In their remaining 11 games, Arsenal could potentially lose one and tie one, finishing on 94 points and still lose out on the league to City.

That would make you happy, but it wouldn’t come close to being a collapse.

City have a much stronger and deeper squad.

Also, you were quite the fan of strength of schedule when Arsenal were doing well at the beginning of the season. Long before we began talking about strength of schedule over on FoI.

Using your reckoning, the Flames have been collapsing all season…

[Slava]

Haha, well the funny thing about strength of schedule is that you actually need to win those games. That’s specifically a reference to the Flames, who play down to the level of their opponents.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

Yeah, I wouldn’t call it a collapse either at this point. The team hit a difficult patch a month ago where it could have gone horribly. It began to look like Manchester United could catch them, but they dealt with it well and have won five in a row since.

City are accomplished at firing up the jets in the run in and Arsenal have a very hard schedule with dates at City and Anfield and home to a starting to look resurgent Chelsea. I think the five point lead and the strength of City make this a coin toss.

Losing a coin toss isn’t a collapse.

Also, if you told me at the start of the season, Arsenal would be in this position and providing so much entertainment, I’d never have believed you.

The life of a sports fan is a funny one. Arsenal are exactly what I thought the Flames would be and the Flames are closer to what I thought Arsenal would be this season.

In my life it was only 1989 when I could have it all. And it all came in the space of two days.

2004 was pretty good as well. An "it was in" from having it all.

[Bagor]

Not Patrick's day.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64972447

[Barnet Flame]

Of course they sack their manager ahead of our game against them.

Everton played like a team possessed against us at Goodson.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Not Patrick's day.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64972447

top contender for the job is ... Roy Hodgson. Not kidding.

[d_phaneuf]

VAR is useless

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

VAR is useless

I think he caught him.

[Badgers Nose]

I think Antonio Conte has gone completely insane. I never backed his appointment, but even I could never predict he would unwind so fully and completely.

"They're used to it here. Don't play for something important. They don't want to play under pressure. They don't want to play under stress. Tottenham's story is this. 20 years there is the owner & they never won something. Why?"

"If you have this you don't have this you don't go out in the FA Cup. Here we are used to for a long time. The club has the responsibility for the transfer market, the coach has the responsibility. But the players, where are the players?"

"It is time to change this situation if Tottenham want to change. If they want to continue in this way, they can change the manager, a lot of managers, but the situation cannot change. Believe me."

[devo22]

he's gone full Mourinho. You never go full Mourinho.

he's just begging for the sack right now.

[Slava]

Well he’s not wrong. You watch his presser and he’s saying what everyone else already knows. Maybe he gets sacked for it, but it’s not like he’s way off base.

And sure, we never should’ve been in that position, but VAR gifted them a goal. Completely ridiculous, but I suppose I should just accept the stupidity by now. It’s unbelievable that calls are completely blown despite a full review that’s wasting everyone’s time.

[d_phaneuf]

I would sack him with cause immediately

Hes just trying to take everyone down with him

Give mason the last 10 games and reassess in the summer

[MegaErtz]

For me, definitely a penalty. Southampton are a terrible team, and will definitely be relegated. No idea how Spurs didn't kill the game when they went up 3-1.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by devo22

he's gone full Mourinho. You never go full Mourinho.

he's just begging for the sack right now.

International break, hes definitely going back to italy during it, doesnt wanna have to fly back after

[cam_wmh]

Levy being found out and laid out.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

For me, definitely a penalty. Southampton are a terrible team, and will definitely be relegated. No idea how Spurs didn't kill the game when they went up 3-1.

Hahaha, you must be blind. There’s literally no contact. Like I know I’m biased, and I take my lumps for that. But, on what planet is that a foul? It’s astonishing that the PL allows decisions like that to stand given what’s at stake. A brutal call like that is season altering.

And yeah, they should killed the game and all that. But would they have pulled it out if there’s no gift of a goal there?

It’s stunning incompetence.

[Bagor]

^Still clearly doesn't understand how VAR works.


There was contact.
The ref was perfectly positioned to call the foul.
The on pitch decision was a penalty. Was it soft? Possibly.
VAR can only intervene if there is evidence that the ref has made a clear and obvious error.
There was zero evidence of that in this case.
Therefore the decision stood.
Nothing "astonishing" about it at all.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I think Antonio Conte has gone completely insane. I never backed his appointment, but even I could never predict he would unwind so fully and completely.

"They're used to it here. Don't play for something important. They don't want to play under pressure. They don't want to play under stress. Tottenham's story is this. 20 years there is the owner & they never won something. Why?"

"If you have this you don't have this you don't go out in the FA Cup. Here we are used to for a long time. The club has the responsibility for the transfer market, the coach has the responsibility. But the players, where are the players?"

"It is time to change this situation if Tottenham want to change. If they want to continue in this way, they can change the manager, a lot of managers, but the situation cannot change. Believe me."

Before anyone asks for a Cole's note version of what happened.

He basically said in a long winded way in an Italian accent.

Lads, It's Spurs.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

I would sack him with cause immediately

Hes just trying to take everyone down with him

Give mason the last 10 games and reassess in the summer

I think there is a high probability that he does get canned but he's not entirely wrong. In fact the reason why he will probably get canned is that he's pretty much on point. And as we all know once any heat is put on Levy be it from fans or whoever he pulls out the axe.

Keane alludes to it all the time but there's something wrong with the culture at Spurs. Average is acceptable. United seem to finally have come out of their version of it with the bs social media post game apologies etc.

All we all know is the glimpse that we got into the club in the Amazon series and everything seemed so casual compared to City where there was an element of intensity.

Of course he needs to bear a significant brunt of the blame as he's the one that has persisted with the same system for most of the year and he's the one that has persisted with the same players for most of the year.

But. Something is not right at that club and I go back to the mystery of Djed Spence where they spent 20M pounds on a RB that hardly kicked a ball. Question has to be asked was he signed against Conte's wishes and what else is taken out of his control.

Nothing will ever change there until Levy moves on.

[cam_wmh]

That Conte presser, was Ronaldo's interview. For the Spurs faithful, you'd hope it pushes Levy to actually open the wallet.