1. Rank the prospects as you like. Upside, chances, or trade value
2. I will try and do one a day which should get us to rookie camp range
3. Graduates and/or runoffs will be determined in each case
4. Please don't complain that the polls are going to deep. We go until all the prospects are ranked, so don't vote if you don't want to.
Guys, guys, guys...Ilya Solovyov played regularly in the KHL last year and fared pretty well among that level of competition. It's considered to be probably the second best league in the world.
Why is he still on the board?
Make it right.
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Guys, guys, guys...Ilya Solovyov played regularly in the KHL last year and fared pretty well among that level of competition. It's considered to be probably the second best league in the world.
Why is he still on the board?
Make it right.
To me he sure looks like the best of the rest, although I doubt he will ever play in the NHL.
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Guys, guys, guys...Ilya Solovyov played regularly in the KHL last year and fared pretty well among that level of competition. It's considered to be probably the second best league in the world.
Why is he still on the board?
Make it right.
Two words.
Karri Ramo.
Add in the Russian factor and its really easy to ignore him depending on your criteria.
Karri Ramo played in the NHL for a few years, and was at least decent. I'm not sure it's the best example.
Is there anyone left on this list that has a high likelihood of playing more than a half season total in the NHL? No, but some guys are more likely to get there than others. That was my only point.
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Karri Ramo played in the NHL for a few years, and was at least decent. I'm not sure it's the best example.
Is there anyone left on this list that has a high likelihood of playing more than a half season total in the NHL? No, but some guys are more likely to get there than others. That was my only point.
I don't blame anyone for going with Beck, Solovyov, or Nikolayev-but Werner is going to challenge for the backup position behind Markstrom this year, and if he doesn't make it, he'll be the first call-up. As good as Solovyov was this year, we likely won't see him in a Flames sweater for a few years.
Karri Ramo played in the NHL for a few years, and was at least decent. I'm not sure it's the best example.
Is there anyone left on this list that has a high likelihood of playing more than a half season total in the NHL? No, but some guys are more likely to get there than others. That was my only point.
Werner is more likely than Solovyov, by that argument
IMO, Beck has the most upside - that's my reasoning
Solovyov was my last player in this tier so I had no choice, but it was a good choice. Glad the group agreed finally!
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Considered
Ilya Solovyov Rory Kerins
Cole Huckins
Martin Pospisil
Emil Heineman
Adam Ruzicka
Yan Kuznetsov
Jeremie Poirier
Ilya Solovyov
An intriguing late bloomer, Ilya Solovyov arrived in central Michigan as an unheralded 19-year-old Belarusian where he quickly earned the trust of his coaches and teammates and saw his usage rapidly increased as the year progressed, ultimately dominating the OHL seemingly out of nowhere. Liking what they saw, the Flames took a smart gamble on the twice-passed over prospect and he rewarded the decision by moving to the second best league in the World, the KHL, and not looking out of place or outmatched at all. In fact, Solovyov exceeded the 20-minute mark in a handful of games this season while ultimately finishing with an average of just under 17 for the season - nothing to be scoffed at for a 20-year-old defenceman in the veteran-heavy KHL. Likewise, while 9 points in 41 games doesn't stand out, this is a 20-year-old in the low-scoring KHL and the Flames were quick to sign their recent draftee ahead of earlier 2020 draft picks even. As things stand, we don't have the sample size on Solovyov we have for most drafted players, but I liken him stylistically to another defenceman who was passed over twice in the draft before getting a chance and never looking back: Alec Martinez.
Ceiling: #4 defenceman (Style: Alec Martinez)
Probable: #6/7 defenceman or KHL
Floor: AHL washout
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Here is how the two public models see this round's winner. Please note that the criteria each model uses for star and NHLer is different! JFresh/TopDownHockey will almost always be lower than Bader's as their thresholds are a much higher standard so adjust accordingly.
Hockey Prospecting
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JFresh/TopDownHockey
JFresh and his partner TopDownHockey introduced their NHLe model this year. You will be familiar with the NHL player graphics they produce regularly. At $7/month the subscription is a no-brainer for any hockey fan. You can register here and support their work if you are interested: https://www.patreon.com/jfreshhockey
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Calgarypuck Prospect Ranking 2021 - Round 25
