2021 NFL off season thread

[rubecube]

Lol

https://twitter.com/user/status/1349739445881348099

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Now who knows how good an NFL coach Urban is going to be, but this just shows what a jackpot getting Trevor is. No way in hell does Urban consider the Jags without him.

True but why do I feel like Urban Meyer in Jacksonville is destined to fail miserably?

Meyer is a great coach, but you have to question his physical ability to deal with the stress, which is considerably higher in the NFL. Most big-time college coaches get to have some semblance of a life even during the season, but that's not true at the NFL level. Trevor Lawrence or not, that's going to be a decent sized rebuilding job also.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I at least give Urban credit for giving this a shot. Saban is probably the greatest college coach ever, but it's disappointing he hasn't given the NFL another shot.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

True but why do I feel like Urban Meyer in Jacksonville is destined to fail miserably?

Meyer is a great coach, but you have to question his physical ability to deal with the stress, which is considerably higher in the NFL. Most big-time college coaches get to have some semblance of a life even during the season, but that's not true at the NFL level. Trevor Lawrence or not, that's going to be a decent sized rebuilding job also.

I'm not sure I would agree with that, and would argue it's almost the opposite. During the season coaching is a 7 day/week affair. In the NFL once the season is over there is some downtime and life returns somewhat to normal (there is still the usual stuff but not as much dealing and working with the players). Not so in college. You are almost always recruiting and that just ramps up once the season is over. Plus working with the players during spring ball etc. College coaching is much more involved in the players lives than the NFL is and that is a year round duty.

But I do agree that Meyer would not necessarily be a guaranteed success in the NFL. The two games (college vs NFL) are so completely different and you need different skillsets to succeed in each environment.

[KelVarnsen]

What excuse will Meyer use to retire this time?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

I'm not sure I would agree with that, and would argue it's almost the opposite. During the season coaching is a 7 day/week affair. In the NFL once the season is over there is some downtime and life returns somewhat to normal (there is still the usual stuff but not as much dealing and working with the players). Not so in college. You are almost always recruiting and that just ramps up once the season is over. Plus working with the players during spring ball etc. College coaching is much more involved in the players lives than the NFL is and that is a year round duty.

But I do agree that Meyer would not necessarily be a guaranteed success in the NFL. The two games (college vs NFL) are so completely different and you need different skillsets to succeed in each environment.

Which is why so many guys have been elite at the college level and bombed in the NFL.

In college they get complete and utter control on who they hire for what coaching position, who they give scholarships too, why they run the systems they do etc..

In the NFL you have GM's, owners, advisers, etc who all get a say on what you do.

[KelVarnsen]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1349864404079292417

[Strange Brew]

So is the owner staying as the GM? Because that always works.

[rubecube]

Jets are hiring Saleh.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1349916717716299779

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

That's a really good hire for them, I think.

[Ducay]

I think Saleh is a perfect fit for the Jets.

Namely because it gets him out of the NFC West so I don't have to listen to the announcers gush over him all game and do 20 close ups on his incredibly handsome physique.

Stupid sexy Saleh

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Jets are hiring Saleh.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1349916717716299779

It's always hard to predict how coordinators will translate to head coach but there's something about this guy. Seems like he may have the leadership qualities that a lot of successful coordinators lack as head coach. Time will tell as the Jets always find a way to screw things up but this is probably the best hire they could make.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Which is why so many guys have been elite at the college level and bombed in the NFL.

In college they get complete and utter control on who they hire for what coaching position, who they give scholarships too, why they run the systems they do etc..

In the NFL you have GM's, owners, advisers, etc who all get a say on what you do.

Yup. The skill sets are so different between the two. There are great coaches at the college level who could not translate success to the NFL and there are successful coaches in the NFL that would suck at the college level.

College coaches have ~20% turnover every year (complete turnover every 4-5 years) and must know how to teach football skills. They are also developing high school age kids mentally and physically every year. Plus the whole academic side of it. NFL coaches don't deal with any of that.

They are two very different games.

[ResAlien]

To be fair I don’t think Urban’s ever been accused of caring about the academic side of college ball. Curious to see how it goes in Jacksonville, they’ll definitely get some of their first nationally televised games in ages this year.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

To be fair I don’t think Urban’s ever been accused of caring about the academic side of college ball. Curious to see how it goes in Jacksonville, they’ll definitely get some of their first nationally televised games in ages this year.

Probably true. My point was mainly that (on paper) college athletes must be attending and passing class. Putting the debate aside about how tough some of these classes are the point was academic standing of 80-100 players on your team is something NFL coaches do not need to concern themselves with.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Even a token effort takes some effort. But then again an NFL coach is monitoring the police wire every day which is not really an issue in college (relatively speaking). The biggest difference is obviously the reverse draft that is college (i.e. Alabama just won the title and will probably have the #1 recruiting class or close to it), and the lack of a salary cap. It's always easy when you can constantly have an elite roster, there's no such thing as a rebuild.

[rubecube]

The Lions have apparently zeroed in on Dan Campbell for their vacant head coaching position.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by rubecube

The Lions have apparently zeroed in on Dan Campbell for their vacant head coaching position.

[rubecube]

Falcons hire Art Smith.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1350199136587493378

[rubecube]

I might owe Syl and EE apologies.

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/...russell-wilson

Former Philadelphia Eagles head coach Doug Pederson (sigh) recently spoke with the Seattle Seahawks about their offensive coordinator opening, according to a report from NFL insider Tom Pelissero.

Would be a great hire for Seattle, IMO.